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    01-17-2012, 06:25 PM
  #21
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The stallion in my avatar was a breeding stallion. The owners did a lot of live cover and during the breeding season he would run his fenceline. He ran it a LOT. As a result, it was very hard to keep weight on him to my satisfaction. But believe me he was well fed.

This breeder does live cover. So, it is entirely likely that he exhibits the same situation. By coming onto the forum and basically accuse these people (of whom you really no nothing) of neglect is poor form.
AND, it has totally hijacked the OP's question.
     
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    01-17-2012, 06:40 PM
  #22
Trained
As long as we don't have government studs, then I'll have the right to do business with whom I wish. If someone else doesn't share my views on a particular breeder, horse or conditions, then it's entirely up to them what they find acceptable. I chose not to do business with folks whose horses are not in what I consider good condition. It tells me that I won't like other conditions on their farm too, most likely. So, my decision.

@Allison Finch - As for those 2 horses, they are not in a condition that I would take mine out in public in, nor would I have allowed anyone to take pictures or put them up for public viewing. I like my horses ROUND and fit. Since I have Arabians and they tend to be fair to middlin' easy keepers, it's been an easy criteria to meet.

Oh, and I do live cover, and my stallions are kept right next to the mares in the barn. The only horse here that is hippy is the one I JUST reposessed because the person was starving her. And by your standards, she's probably fat.

If you're determined to be offended and insulted by the comments on this thread, then you'll find plenty of fodder.
     
    01-17-2012, 06:50 PM
  #23
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I had only posted him was BECAUSE of his color. I read the OP's question, remembered him from my stallion searches, and posted it. The live cover wasn't an option until recently, saw him originally 2 years ago and it was AI only, and was still AI exclusive last year when I came across his ads. They also had all the pictures of him at that time with less meat on his bones. I was only posting about how well he exhibited splash as a purebred arab. He would be an interesting test subject for the UC Davis splash test.

And honestly, I have known of breeders that put to shame backyard breeders. Ugh, no common sense. One even put mares that were boarded on their property in with their "pretty" (ugly in reality) unknown breed stud colt without informing the owners. -My sister was so mad, luckily, her mare miscarried. Or another that decided to breed a client's mare to his morgan stallion without telling the owner, was only supposed to train the mare who had a paid breeding to a paint stallion. But enough of my rant of the truly bad breeders out there.

Moonlight Money Maker is most definitely a splash, more so than any other purebred arabian I have seen pictures of.
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    01-17-2012, 07:09 PM
  #24
Green Broke
Definitely splash. Especially since he has blue eyes - Arabians don't have frame, and blue eyes are caused by one of the two. But yes, his markings scream splash.
     
    01-17-2012, 07:34 PM
  #25
Trained
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Originally Posted by Allison Finch    
It looks more like one Arabian breeder slamming another, IMO.

Do you think these horses are starved?





I can see ribs! And hips. However, these are horses jogging in a vet inspection at two of the biggest events in the world. These are incredibly fit horses at the top of their game, and very well cared for.
these horses are under weight
In who`s eyes are these horses fit and on top of their game
Especially the bottom Arab
     
    01-17-2012, 07:45 PM
  #26
Green Broke
That bottom pic is not an arab...
     
    01-17-2012, 07:47 PM
  #27
Green Broke
To be honest Im with allison on this a few of the horses yes could use some weight however most looked fine to me. Now most looked to be lacking muscle more than anything and that is what stood out to me the most..
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    01-17-2012, 08:05 PM
  #28
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But when I see arabians at the top levels of competition (in breed shows), I don't see the ribs and hips on any of them. Well muscled and nicely shaped. If an arabian is not easy to keep weight on, they are a hard keeper and less desirable. I found an arabian gelding for sale that was of high performance breeding, great conformation, and was professional trained. His price tag was slashed only because he was a hard keeper, thus needing more care to keep weight on. Arabians lose value when they are hard keepers. They are a desert breed and shouldn't require huge amounts to stay filled out.

But this is all going away from the focus of the thread. Please let it go.

If you have thoughts of other purebred arabians you feel are of interest to test splash on. Share your thoughts. After all, UC Davis has a test for sabino1 -sabino arabs are not sabino1, so are splash arabs going to come up as one of the three types of splash they have identified?
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    01-17-2012, 08:12 PM
  #29
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Originally Posted by SunnyDraco    
If you have thoughts of other purebred arabians you feel are of interest to test splash on. Share your thoughts. After all, UC Davis has a test for sabino1 -sabino arabs are not sabino1, so are splash arabs going to come up as one of the three types of splash they have identified?
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I don't know but I know I'm going to find out. I have a couple who look like they could be splash, and I need to send in hair for other testing so might as well test for it and see what happens. My stallion is one, he has the white going down to the lower lip, 3 jagged white socks, but not necessarily a huge blaze. He's also sabino, but not sabino-1.

     
    01-17-2012, 08:18 PM
  #30
Trained
Think this mare will carry? She is completely roaned out as well.
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