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        05-25-2011, 08:11 AM
      #41
    Foal
    This horse, Cincinnati Kid, is of the same breed, and color of the horse in question. The horse in question is a dark bay with a winter coat making the fading look very extensive when in fact it is not. If the horse were to shed out in his summer coat he'd look like this. As I said this shade of bay is common among Standarbreds, and is in fact bay not brown.

    This horse, Ponder, also has the same effect, and is bay.

    If the horse in question were to be shed out he would like like the two above horses.
    The USTA has both bay and brown in their registry as separate genetic colors.


    This horse Striking Sahbra, is a Brown Standardbred.


    Here are some foals sporting the two different sades. This one Bay, will get darker after his foal fuzz sheds to look like the top two, and This one a striking brown Brown will look like Sahbra when he ages.
         
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        05-25-2011, 08:31 AM
      #42
    Trained
    Standardbreds aren't genetically different to other breeds. Those are brown, not bay.

    Registry bodies are notorious for being decades behind in terms of the genetics behind horse colour. Using their stick to measure against is not accurate.
         
        05-25-2011, 08:31 AM
      #43
    Trained
    But in fact it is brown. Have all these horses that you have been calling bay been tested to show that they do not carry At? I am highly doubting it.

    Foal coats... I will not give a definitive on bay/brown from a foal coat alone. That whole idea is just asinine.


    All of the adult horses that you have posted are brown. Plain and simple. The fading in the soft areas is not caused by sun fading. It is not physically possible for a horse to sun fade in those areas and not in the "normal" areas for sun fading. Those faded areas are the main, and definitive areas, that a horse carries At.
         
        05-25-2011, 09:08 AM
      #44
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Chiilaa    
    Standardbreds aren't genetically different to other breeds.
    Never said they were

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by NdAppy    
    The fading in the soft areas is not caused by sun fading. It is not physically possible for a horse to sun fade in those areas and not in the "normal" areas for sun fading.
    and I never said it was 'sun fading'
         
        05-25-2011, 09:10 AM
      #45
    Trained
    I am certain that all the horses in question would test as At. I just don't understand why there is a stigma attached to brown, that allows people to think it's better to believe the horse is a different colour rather than call them the colour they are.
         
        05-25-2011, 10:06 AM
      #46
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by CrazyHorseArtist    
    Never said they were
    Then why are you insisting that this horse is a STB and that should alter our perception?
         
        05-25-2011, 08:31 PM
      #47
    Foal
    Ok you may call then brown if you wish/

    But remember a horse has to do more than just test for At. At is recessive to all other alleles on the Agouti Locus. The horse would have to be AtAt or positive At and (a) being Ata in order to be brown.
         
        05-25-2011, 09:13 PM
      #48
    Trained
    *head desk*

    They ARE brown. Not because I wish them to be. Because they ARE.
         
        05-25-2011, 09:21 PM
      #49
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by CrazyHorseArtist    
    ok you may call then brown if you wish/
    This is rather condescending of you to say.

    I am with Chiilaa and NdAppy. Those horses are brown. I'm also not sure what the obsession with Standardbreds is either..
         
        05-26-2011, 02:39 PM
      #50
    Yearling
    So if none of the horses that have been posted are bay, I would LOVE to see what an ACTUAL bay looks like, since my horse is apparently NOT a bay, and I thought she was photo-child bay.



    Please, enlighten us?
         

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