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  • What breed of horses have mealy noses
  • Dark bay with brown muzzle horse

 
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    07-02-2011, 11:17 AM
  #21
Green Broke
Iseul just to clarify - the mealy 'muzzle' of a brown horse isn't the lips and nostrils themselves.



This horse is a brown. You can see the mealy on the nose, and still black lips and nostrils. This is a classic example of brown, but I am using it to show the placement of the mealy
     
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    07-02-2011, 03:13 PM
  #22
Weanling
This is my mare Angel I believe she is a blood bay her mane and tail never sun bleach


     
    07-02-2011, 03:35 PM
  #23
Started
Chiilaa, what I meant was enough of the fur around the nostrils and lips would be enoughto consider as a dark point. I saw the fur around the nostrils and lips as being black, and then mealy, and then the brown/bay colour. I'll try and get a picture of Toby (bay pony) when I get back to my house to show what I was trying to explain.
And, LuvMyPerlinoQH, I believe Angel's tail is sunbleached in the second photo..?
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    07-02-2011, 03:41 PM
  #24
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Iseul    
Chiilaa, what I meant was enough of the fur around the nostrils and lips would be enoughto consider as a dark point. I saw the fur around the nostrils and lips as being black, and then mealy, and then the brown/bay colour. I'll try and get a picture of Toby (bay pony) when I get back to my house to show what I was trying to explain.
And, LuvMyPerlinoQH, I believe Angel's tail is sunbleached in the second photo..?
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Ha yep your right the tip of her tail does but her mane hasnt
     
    07-02-2011, 04:11 PM
  #25
Green Broke
Ok so here are ALL browns and it kind of gives you an idea of the variations of brown, and HC due to the 2nd picture I do believe your boy is technically brown, but of course it wouldn't hurt my feelings if you kept calling him bay! That's what my mom does anyway.

Here is sparta.. and you can clearly see he is brown and his lighter points,


Still brown, BUT this one makes it harder to see his points.

And my mom's "bay"
Note the barely lighter color on her muzzle, stifles and around her elbows


Same horse, and you can clearly see the lighter color.note the date and time frame of the picture, as to when it is most noticible

And the TB we had for a short period.
He is Also brown but has a much lighter variation of the color on his muzzle

     
    07-02-2011, 04:18 PM
  #26
Started
OKay I think I'm just going to keep calling TC brown no matter what my friend says haha. His papers say brown, my BO says he's brown, he looks brown...so if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and walks like a duck than it must, in fact, be a duck haha

Thanks guys it was actually really informative.
     
    07-02-2011, 04:18 PM
  #27
Green Broke
I do want to say that this horse IS bay, and you can note that his muzzle isn't lighter, he's a wild bay, so his black points are restricted.

     
    07-02-2011, 05:57 PM
  #28
Yearling
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiilaa    
Iseul just to clarify - the mealy 'muzzle' of a brown horse isn't the lips and nostrils themselves.



This horse is a brown. You can see the mealy on the nose, and still black lips and nostrils. This is a classic example of brown, but I am using it to show the placement of the mealy
I had a mare the exact same color and she was a "seal" brown.
     
    07-02-2011, 06:35 PM
  #29
Started
My horse IS a bay right, because some of these that you guys are saying they are brown look bay to me




     
    07-02-2011, 07:30 PM
  #30
Yearling
That is a bay.
     

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