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    12-29-2012, 07:12 PM
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Yearling
"Black" body with white mane and tail?

If you've read my other thread you'll know that we recently rescued 2 foals from a centre. One is brown and white (Summer) so we're sticking with Skewbald, but the other (Spring) is slightly more difficult.

Also, i'm not sure if age makes a difference with colouring? They are 8 months old.

Spring is black all over, with a white star. However, the ends of her mane are a light brown and she has a white tail? I don't have a picture to show her tail at the moment, but in this picture you can sort of see her mane colouring:

     
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    12-29-2012, 07:18 PM
  #2
Trained
The brown tips look like sun bleaching. Very common on black horses. The white tail could be part of a pinto gene expressing. I know my gelding's half sister is all black with four white stockings, a star and a small white crescent on her rump, but her tail is white.
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    12-29-2012, 07:20 PM
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Yearling
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Originally Posted by DraftyAiresMum    
The brown tips look like sun bleaching. Very common on black horses. The white tail could be part of a pinto gene expressing. I know my gelding's half sister is all black with four white stockings, a star and a small white crescent on her rump, but her tail is white.
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Ah right, thank you! I just thought it was wierd because there's no white on her body. What sort of pinto gene? Like, what colour would she classify as?
     
    12-29-2012, 07:28 PM
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Trained
Can you post a body picture of her?
     
    12-29-2012, 07:29 PM
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Trained
Are you in the UK or Canada (can't tell on my phone)? I'm not sure how she'd be classified. In the US, unless she had two provable paint (registered APHA) parents, she'd be a pinto. No idea what pattern. One of the overo patterns (frame, splash, sabino), probably.
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    12-29-2012, 07:30 PM
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Green Broke
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Originally Posted by DraftyAiresMum    
Are you in the UK or Canada (can't tell on my phone)? I'm not sure how she'd be classified. In the US, unless she had two provable paint (registered APHA) parents, she'd be a pinto. No idea what pattern. One of the overo patterns (frame, splash, sabino), probably.
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Actually, the most common reason for a white tail caused by pinto is tobiano

However, without pictures, I am hesitant to say what it is. It could be tobiano, it could be sabino, it could just be baby flaxen that hasn't shed out yet.
     
    12-29-2012, 07:35 PM
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Trained
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Originally Posted by Chiilaa    
Actually, the most common reason for a white tail caused by pinto is tobiano.
See, was just guessing, which is why I prefaced with "No idea." Interesting, though. I wonder what pattern(s) Piper is.
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    12-29-2012, 08:37 PM
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Yearling
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Originally Posted by NdAppy    
Can you post a body picture of her?
I don't have any at the moment, I'll try get some.

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Originally Posted by DraftyAiresMum    
Are you in the UK or Canada (can't tell on my phone)? I'm not sure how she'd be classified. In the US, unless she had two provable paint (registered APHA) parents, she'd be a pinto. No idea what pattern. One of the overo patterns (frame, splash, sabino), probably.
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Im in the UK.
     
    01-01-2013, 02:42 PM
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Green Broke
Could even be gray (if a parent was gray). My gray foal wasn't born with goggles or any white eye lashes, etc. The first sign of him going gray (besides being born with dark legs) was white in his tail. That was the first white hair on him.
     
    01-02-2013, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by trailhorserider    
Could even be gray (if a parent was gray). My gray foal wasn't born with goggles or any white eye lashes, etc. The first sign of him going gray (besides being born with dark legs) was white in his tail. That was the first white hair on him.
Even with a grey parent, being born with white in the tail could be from other genetics. Here is a young colt (dressed as a pirate for Halloween and walking the teeter totter bridge) whose color genetics are Ee Aa and was tested negative for grey (his dam is grey). The question remains if he will shed his tail color and grow in black. But for now, his tail is a very cool color contrast
     

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