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    05-01-2012, 07:35 PM
  #1
Green Broke
Black, Brown or Smokey Black?

So after being lied to about Jynxy's parents and assuming they were both black, I just figured Jynx was a fading black. Jynx is ONLY ever black in winter - even with a rain sheet on 24/7 after having a winter blanket on 24/7, her flank spots have faded to a rich mahogany color.

Turns out her dam is actually buckskin - which obviously opens the possibilities. So now I've found myself wondering if smokey black isn't an option only because most smokey blacks I've seen tend to fade a lot more then blacks.

Or she could of course just be brown, but her head almost always stays black with no sign of mealiness. Again, with all the white I'm sure it's hard to tell!

Any opinions? I will have her tested eventually because the not knowing is going to drive me crazy.

Oh and meet her new (real) family! After seeing these photos, it's a bloody miracle she turned out as nice as she did!!

Pics of Jynx:


Dead of winter - black as night


Spring - flank starting to go slightly brown already


Last spring/summer - quite brown in the flank, and yet black in the head.


Two summers are - EXTREMELY faded flank, and yet still almost jet black head. She was not blanketed this year.

And her parents:


Her lovely sire...god I really hope he's like a yearling in this photo


With her dam and showing the brownish flank with mostly black head


Jynx as a youngster, showing the same browning on the flank

I guess I understand that blacks fade, just really not sure why her head almost always stays black and that flank can fade so much even under a blanket!
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    05-01-2012, 09:07 PM
  #2
Trained
She isn't brown. Other than that, I won't try a guess. Cream on black is a pain in behind
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    05-01-2012, 09:21 PM
  #3
Green Broke
ROFL, well if YOU won't even take a guess, I just throw up my hands and I'll let you know when her testing comes back!
     
    05-01-2012, 09:25 PM
  #4
Trained
LMAO! I hate black with cream. Always so fun.... NOT!

I would test her. When I finally get a horse, the poor thing isn't going to have any mane left at all. I can't stand not knowing lol. Of course, chances are good I will be getting a TB or an Arab. Lots of interesting colours there, right???
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    05-01-2012, 09:27 PM
  #5
Green Broke
I know! If I'm requesting a test for cream, I may as well do her LWO at the same time, and now as I don't know buttkiss about her bloodlines, I want her done for HYPP and HERDA as well. Not that I ever really plan to breed her, but if she's ever sold, I need to be able to tell her new owners about any potential breeding issues.
     
    05-01-2012, 09:37 PM
  #6
Trained
Plus HYPP can be a problem with one copy

Also, I bet she has frame. Just something about the way her blaze spreads on top of her head whispers softly to me. And now I sound crazy lol.
     
    05-02-2012, 04:47 AM
  #7
Weanling
It was all so simple when patchy colour horses were either piebald or skewbald (purely UK, obviously). Anyone else pine for those days?
     
    05-02-2012, 07:28 PM
  #8
Green Broke
LOL, as a color genetics enthusiast, I can't say I do! I've been obsessed with color genetics as a kid, so I probably would have been one of the first to start pointing out that piebald and skewbald CLEARLY didn't explain all the color variations.

Me and Shay-la are looking into getting our Instructor of Beginners certification, and part of the written test is generic horse stuff. The study booklet is SO off about the colors, I was having a minor apoplectic fit. I'm going to be like Sheldon at the DMV (Big Bang Theory) correcting my tester if they actually expect me to answer "true" to the question "Blue roans consist of black and RED hairs." Not even joking. And they still apply the piebald and skewbald terms in that booklet as well. Shay-la moved away a couple inches when my eye started twitching...
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    05-02-2012, 09:45 PM
  #9
Trained
Oh god. There is no way I would be able to sit that test without killing someone.
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    05-03-2012, 09:23 AM
  #10
Yearling
Sorry, totally nothing to do with the horses color, but this just cracked me up
     

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