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post #41 of 53 Old 12-28-2012, 06:11 PM
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Smokey black is genetically a black based horse with a single copy of the cream gene. They range from black to dark brown, but a true brown horse will have a brown muzzle. The black and smokey black horse has a black muzzle. This makes it easy to differentiate between black and dark dark brown horses.
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post #42 of 53 Old 12-28-2012, 06:14 PM
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Smoky black stallion =


Another smoky black -



Both of those horses above, without testing or progeny, you would not be able to tell they were smoky black.
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True colour remains on their head and legs. Smoky blacks is a dilute colour.
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Smoky black stallion =


Another smoky black -



Both of those horses above, without testing or progeny, you would not be able to tell they were smoky black.
You could classify those horses as fading blacks.
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Perhaps a fading black is an uneducated term for what we now know to be smokey black.
Cream Dilution - Horse Coat Color DNA Testing

Another good link with photos.
http://grullablue.com/colors/foalcolors.htm#smokyblack
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One cream gene does not dilute black immediately like it does on chestnut. If it did, buckskins would look like palominos. Smoky blacks look just like normal blacks.

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You could classify those horses as fading blacks.
Except they're already proven to be black + cream.. So they're smoky black, not fading.
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A fading black is a true black, that will be bleached by the sun. A smoky black is not a *True* black.
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Nobody said they were... Everyone has said smoky black is black + cream..
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Have the "fading blacks" been tested to see if they indeed do carry a modifier? Perhaps it's just in the hair shaft itself....some horses have a tendency to fading hair shafts and other blacks have more pigment that doesn't fade?
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I have to point this out EVERY horse, red based included in this, fades or burns when out in the sun. Every horse does so at different rates.

And once again, at this point in time, there no genetic difference between fading and nonfading blacks.
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