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post #1 of 16 Old 12-05-2011, 11:35 PM Thread Starter
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Black and white tobiano question ...

Just bought myself a very nice 12 year-old Quarter/Morgan (?) cross mare. Some people call her a black and white tobiano paint ... others call her a black and white tobiano pinto. I read the long thread about paint v. pinto, and I'm not sure I understand it exactly. I don't know her breeding ... my farrier guesses she's Quarter Horse / Morgan cross. Here she is.





Paint or Pinto? Pinto markings, right? Is Paint a breed?

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post #2 of 16 Old 12-05-2011, 11:38 PM
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Paint is breed, pinto is colouration. Your horse would be a pinto!
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Thank you!
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I will say there's no way that horse is a Morgan/Quarter cross!
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Really? Why is that? What's your guess?
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Tobiano coloration does not exist in either breed. ;)

Could theoretically be Paint/Morgan, could be pure Paint, could be random pinto mutt pony....are there any signs of gaiting? Can you get a good conformation shot? I'm assuming you have no prior history on her?
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Because tobiano does not exist in either Morgans or QH.

It may be a Morgan/paint cross.

Also, the horse is not just tobiano, IMO. I see splashed white as well, in the bottom heavy blaze.
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I have no prior history on her. I have a video of her that I took when the seller was riding her, and you can see a little bit of a gait on her, but her feet were not done at the time. I've since had her shod, and I haven't videotaped her gait again to compare it.
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Hmmmmm....bad video to tell anything, and the pictures aren't much to go by, either. We just frankly don't have Morgans around here, so for that biased reason alone, I'm unlikely to think in that direction. She almost looks a little Foxtrotter-y to me from the photos, but again, that's mostly a wild guess.
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Wow. Sorry about that. I'll have to brush up on my horsey video/photo skills, I guess. Where is "here"?
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