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        11-26-2012, 08:43 PM
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    Whats a lethal white foal? I was thinking on breeding her in a few years, maybe. If I do breed her, chances are I will not have her tested for genes. But I won't be breeding her for quite a few years yet, so I am not worried.
    Testing her is essential if you are going to breed her. A lethal white foal is not something so easy to avoid and there is no reason not to make every effort (testing) to do so. The big issue with the lethal white foal is that they have incomplete digestive systems and it is 100% fatal, after a painful bout of colic symptoms. You have a beautiful, seemingly healthy foal, that is dead in three days - and they die a horrible death (unless you have the sense to euth immediately).
    I would suggest doing some very serious research on this (and other) subject before even considering any breedings.
         
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        11-26-2012, 08:50 PM
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    This is my friend's QH mare. She is solid except for her large blaze that slightly extends to her eye and a silver dollar sized white spot on her side. She didn't know anything about frame and bred to a frame carrying stud. She just gave birth a few weeks back to a lethal white foal who luckily didn't suffer long and died immediately after birth. Your chances of having one of these foal's if you breed your mare irresponsibly is very likely. But your still young and you may not even ever breed her. This is just to educate you and maybe you can educate others.

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        11-26-2012, 08:58 PM
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    Ah hah I found that link I was talking about. Breezy read this real life experience dealing with OWLS it's very sad educational and informative.
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        11-26-2012, 11:26 PM
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    Originally Posted by Breezy2011    
    Whats a lethal white foal? I was thinking on breeding her in a few years, maybe. If I do breed her, chances are I will not have her tested for genes. But I won't be breeding her for quite a few years yet, so I am not worried.
    The test for frame is very simple- it involves you pulling a few mane or tail hairs and mailing them to a lab, such as UC Davis, which charges just $25 for the test. I'd consider this a bare minimum responsibility for breeding any horse that shows frame characteristics as yours does, and a very wise investment even if the horse isn't obviously frame. I can't imagine going through all the time and expense of breeding only to have the foal die within 3 days.
         
        11-27-2012, 12:02 AM
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    Yes if you ever plan to breed her please please test her. I know there was another member who also lost a foal to OWLS very sad. Not only for your sake but the mare and future foals as well.
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        11-27-2012, 04:13 PM
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    I didn't say I wouldn't test her, I said I wasn't going to worry about testing her until I am certain I will breed her. I said I might now test her or even probably won't because I am not sure I will breed her. She is only almost 2, I have a lot of years to decide this.
         
        11-27-2012, 04:23 PM
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    Originally Posted by Breezy2011    
    Whats a lethal white foal? I was thinking on breeding her in a few years, maybe. If I do breed her, chances are I will not have her tested for genes. But I won't be breeding her for quite a few years yet, so I am not worried.
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    Originally Posted by Breezy2011    
    I didn't say I wouldn't test her, I said I wasn't going to worry about testing her until I am certain I will breed her. I said I might now test her or even probably won't because I am not sure I will breed her. She is only almost 2, I have a lot of years to decide this.
    Read the first quote above. You did say that "I will not have her tested for genes"
         
        11-27-2012, 04:57 PM
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    Try to be careful when you type reread yourself. Remember we can only go by what is posted.
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        11-27-2012, 06:03 PM
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    Originally Posted by Breezy2011
    Whats a lethal white foal? I was thinking on breeding her in a few years, maybe. If I do breed her, chances are I will not have her tested for genes. But I won't be breeding her for quite a few years yet, so I am not worried.


    Correction, I said chances are I won't I did not say I didn't.
         
        11-27-2012, 06:38 PM
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    Correction, I said chances are I won't I did not say I didn't.
    It came across in a way that sounded like you were saying you will never get her tested even if you do breed her. Testing for frame is very important, especially if you want to breed to a stallion that has frame. Any frame overo horse is Oo, as oo will not have pattern and OO is 100% deadly usually within 72 hours of birth.
         

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