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        06-22-2011, 02:21 PM
    Green Broke
    It's unoffcially known as tricolor here to, but the official term would be either Dun,Bay, Buckskin or anything with black points and then whatever paint pattern it is. Such as my girl is a Bay paint but is also known unexclusively as a Tricolor simply because of her black points.
    though it's not official when you say tri color people know what you're talking about.
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        06-22-2011, 02:24 PM
    Looks tovero to me a combination of overo and tobiano
        06-22-2011, 07:50 PM
    Just to make a point here.

    "Tovero" and "Overo" are dated terms. They are generic and really not applicable anymore. It's like being asked what breed a horse is and replying with "coldblood". The only place that you should see these terms is with registering bodies, and we all know they are backwards and never move with the times.

    Overo is a lump term for three different white patterns - frame, splash and sabino. It is important that we start to always separate these three when we refer to them, since frame in particular is something all breeders should be aware of and specific when referring to it.

    If a horse is tobiano and another white pattern, call it that, eg Tobiano with Splash.

    Also, I am with ND on this one. A tricolour doesn't include white. Otherwise every bay with a sock would be a tricolour. I know in dogs that tricolour does include white, but it doesn't in horses. Again, saying that the registry accepts bay and white as tri is not helping your case, because registries are just plain dumb sometimes.
        06-23-2011, 08:15 AM
    While I know that NdAppy was trying to say the same thing, Chiilaa did a real good job of getting the point through my sometimes dim witted brain. Thanks to the two of you.

    So ... bottom line ... am I now correct in saying that Bonnie is Tobiano with Splash?

    That being said, if I advertised her for sale, and until the uninitiated are educated, I'm afraid I would have to resort to the archaic terms so that others will understand.

    Further - many times there is such a fine line between splash and frame that it is a rather subjective thing and at times quite confusing, that the older term, overo, is just simpler.
        06-23-2011, 08:25 AM
    You would be correct in saying that, yes.

    As for the line between frame and splash, they can look like they are the same, but often it is not the case. Frame is usually just that - white in the middle with a frame of colour around the outside. It is also associated with solid legs, and has usually got jagged edges to the white. Splash tends to start on the face, usually with bottom heavy markings like aprons. It also likes to cause leg white, and is usually neat and fairly straight lines.
        06-23-2011, 12:26 PM
    Easiest way I have found to describe splash is to describe it like jumping into a puddle of white paint. It "splashes" up onto the body.

    Smokes Navajo, who used to be in my signature, is a good example of a splash white paint that has similar markings on the barrel to frame. Smokes is not a frame carrier though.

    Colors and patterns can be so confusing.

    If you advertised her, I would advertise her as a tovero. That is the term that most people are going to think of when seeing her.
        06-25-2011, 12:15 AM
    Someone should make a thread with a description of all these paint terms and then include a picture example. I can't find a good website describing the different paint terms.
        06-25-2011, 01:26 AM

    This website has a good gallery as well as a description too.
        06-25-2011, 03:28 PM
    Hmmm its not coming up for me :/

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