Originally Posted by hillside farm
1. Color Is A VERY Determining Factor when breeding a Color Breed of horse.
( A breeder does not breed for solid color offspring, They breed for color. )
2. Responsible Breeders DO Breed horses within the standard and rules of the breed.
( So if I take my AKC Reg. Boxer and breed it to my AKC Reg German Import Shepherd, do think AKC will reg. That litter of pups because they came from two reg. Parents? NO !!!! They are two different breeds........ )
3. Many Appy lines have Paints in their Ancestry, and display Paint Characterestics later.
( Name one Appaloosa Bloodline that does )
45+ years of Breeding Quality Horses in both AQHA & ApHC Registry's makes me Very Educated . ( I do not talk out of both sides of my mouth, I Stated Facts.... )
Legitmate reasons to breed Pintaloosa's.....
( Name One... )
As A Breeder I Believe:
If a Breeder Can Not follow the Breeds Guidelines & Rules and Breed to Improve the Breed, (They have No Buisness Breeding..........)
( That is the Difference between a Professional and a Backyard Breeder.)
As to number 1 - Sorry, you are wrong. Color is NEVER, or at least should never be a primary consideration when breeding. Heck, I raised Appys, a color breed, for over 20 years - you don't have to tell me about color breeds. A responsible breeder breeds for conformation and ability - if you get color, that is a bonus...if you don't get color, you still have a good horse. I will tell you unequivocably that any breeder that breeds horses on the primary basis of color is irresponsible.
As to number 2 - I have no idea what you are trying to say.
As to number 3 - MightyBright/Bright Eyes Brother, one of the most desired Appy lines is noted for high whites and wide blazes due to influence from Plaudette, who got her splash, as did many lines, from the very prepotent Old Fred. And there are other similar lines. It is ApHC that forbids Paint outcrossing - the ApHC was founded in 1938 - do you think there was no Paint influence before that time? ApHC has nothing to do with the formation of the breed or what outcrossing was done before it was formed.
If you are not aware of the history of Bright Eyes Brother and Mighty Bright, both of whom are in the ApHC Appy Hall of Fame, then I do not accept your claim that you have been breeding Appys for 45 years. Quite frankly, that would be impossible, and would be the equivalent of a Thoroughbred breeder never having heard of Man O War, or a Quarterhorse breeder never having heard of Three Bars.
And as to your statement about outcrossing, give me one justification other than color for permitting outcrossing to Quarterhorses, and not Paints. Neither were in the original Appy mix, and neither improve the breed...in reality, the incessant crossing with Quarterhorses has diluted the breed...