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        04-05-2011, 01:22 AM
      #11
    Trained
    You also couldn't get a smoky cream out of her.

    And if you wanted a specific colour within those, you'd have to find a stallion that is, say for blue roan, at least homozygous roan, if not also homozygous black. Even then, you'd have a 50% chance of a bay roan instead of blue roan.

    You're better off buying a foal of your colour choice than prowling the interwebz trying to find a genetically correct stud for colour because the majority of the time you'll be sacrificing quality. Plus, you won't have to wait a year for the little one, only to be disappointed in its colour if it's wrong.
         
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        04-05-2011, 02:37 AM
      #12
    Trained
    Poseidon, while normally I would agree with you entirely, the horse market is completely different in Australia when compared to the Americas. Colours that you would consider common place over there are relatively rare here, due to the difference in riding styles. English is huge here, while Western is really only a select few. As a result, 'english' style breeds such as TBs and Warmbloods are the most common horses, and the stock breeds such as QHs and Paints, while not rare, are also not common either.

    Add into that the fact that we don't have nearly as many issues with too many horses. So not only are these colours relatively hard to find, they are very rarely cheap. Fortunately, they are also very rarely badly conformed too.
         
        04-05-2011, 09:21 AM
      #13
    Trained
    Ooooooh. I see. Well, darn it, Australia! Get some colour into your horses!
         
        04-05-2011, 09:24 AM
      #14
    Trained
    I would kill for some colour lol. My dream horse would probably be a buckskin Anglo Arab. That would be so frickin' awesome. One day, when I win lotto probably, I will have to import some coloured TBs from over in the US. Bliss!
         
        04-05-2011, 09:33 AM
      #15
    Trained
    And one day I will import one of your Aussie stock horses. Mmmm. Love.
         
        04-05-2011, 09:35 AM
      #16
    Trained
    Maybe we should sort something out lol
         
        04-05-2011, 09:42 AM
      #17
    Trained
    I'd have to find a TB first. Haha. My friend has two that she got last fall from racing people that went out of business. I have no idea where they lived though. I think in-state. All we really have are western-y stock horses. I'd have to kidnap someone's horse from somewhere else in the country. Haha. I'm on it.
         
        04-05-2011, 06:42 PM
      #18
    Foal
    Chiilaa, I am in Australia. Also, if you want a buckskin Anglo, go find yourself a bay Arab mare and breed her to Glaciel Gold, a true genetic cremello TB stallion.

    Also, I would not sacrifice quality for colour. I want her foals to be an asset to breeding, not some backyard-bred out-of-propotian weirdo roan/dun/smoky colour. I'd rather a good conformed quality bay than a strange looking dun. Nonetheless, I am DETERMINED to get my coloured foal haha. If I can find the right stallion who isn't bad quality. I was thinking of this one:
    HEZA BLUE TOMCAT
    Tashanor Park At Stud : Sampson

    Oh, and for Chiilaa's benefit, here is Glacial Gold. He could be better conformed, though he's only a baby so he may fill out.
    GLACIAL GOLD
    Glacial Gold
         
        04-05-2011, 06:48 PM
      #19
    Trained
    MK with the first one you only have a 50% chance of getting roan and a 50% chance of getting tobiano. It isn't possible for him to be homozygous tobiano and roan. They are both KIT genes...
         
        04-05-2011, 06:49 PM
      #20
    Trained
    On Glacial Gold... I wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole. Not with all the extensive photoshoping that has been done around his head and neck on his pictures.
         

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