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  • Brindle stallion with black mane

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    04-27-2012, 04:34 PM
  #101
Foal
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Originally Posted by NdAppy    
Lol Gremmy there are only two base colors in horses, red and black with black being dominant over red. Everything else is a modification of those two colors. Clear as mud right?
Well that is embarrassing, all these years I've had it in my head that agouti caused black points on a red based horse as opposed to minimizing black to those points!

Now off to go read up on this until the world makes sense again...
     
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    04-27-2012, 04:36 PM
  #102
Trained
Nokota - IMO he's a bay dun.
     
    04-27-2012, 04:43 PM
  #103
Started
Lol yea I'm not sure Gremmy.
And I'd agree 100% if it werent for all the red and the minimal black on the back legs
     
    04-27-2012, 04:46 PM
  #104
Trained
The little black means nothing. It just means that agouti is restricting the black further down the legs then it typically does.
     
    04-27-2012, 04:49 PM
  #105
Started
Okay. The red?
     
    04-27-2012, 05:22 PM
  #106
Trained
A horse that is genetically red, isn't going to have the black mane and tail. He's not red dun. He's Bay+Dun= Bay Dun
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    04-27-2012, 09:00 PM
  #107
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Originally Posted by NdAppy    
The little black means nothing. It just means that agouti is restricting the black further down the legs then it typically does.
Add onto the variation that naturally occurs in all horse colours (different shades within the same colour, such as lower black in this case), dun also is a dilution. It is not uncommon for dark points on dun to be a more chocolate colour than black.
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    04-27-2012, 09:04 PM
  #108
Started
There was a dun at my barn and his points were dark.brown
Really cool lookimg
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    04-27-2012, 09:10 PM
  #109
Yearling
This site shows a lot of kigers --> http://www.dungenes.org/ including this gal below which is identified as bay dun. Check out how light her legs are - much like your guys.

--> http://www.dungenes.org/images/009_6a.jpg for larger photo

And I think this page could be helpful for you --> http://www.dungenes.org/4_basic_dun_colors.htm
     
    04-27-2012, 11:01 PM
  #110
Foal
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A grulla is a black horse with one cream gene, a perlino is with two, Your horse appears to be a grulla with the dun factors, the dun gene gives the horse a some or all of the "dun factors" which are ear stripes, zebra stripes, leg barring, the black lines across their withers and the dorsal stripe, the guard hairs on the tail and white hairs on mane, it is not considered a dun unless it has a dorsal nor if the dorsal fades in the summer, a dun must always have a dorsal no matter if red or black or bay. A buckskin is a bay with the cream gene, but there can also be a dun-skin and that is a buckskin that have 'dun's' in their parent history and they express the dun gene through the "dun factors"....clear as mud right???
     

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