Brindle or Roan? - Page 14 - The Horse Forum

 98Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #131 of 160 Old 05-02-2012, 06:07 PM
Yearling
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Iowa
Posts: 985
• Horses: 6
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiilaa View Post
If you are still convinced, then yes, you are wrong about the colour of the horses. That doesn't matter in the long run, and is no reflection on you as a horse owner. The majority of horse owners are ignorant of the genetics of horse coat colours. That doesn't make them bad owners, it just shows that they don't really have an interest in genetics.

Kiger is still mustang, and still a domestic horse for all intents and purposes as far as colouration is concerned. The genetics are the same. The potential colours are the same. The display of the colours is the same. The horse you pictured has not got a copy of the dun gene, therefore, he cannot possibly be dun.

The two mares you have pictured are grey. Sure, the younger one could have been a red dun when she was born. Not disputing that at all. But she isn't one any more - she is a grey. Underneath she still has the dun gene, but the grey gene means she will eventually be completely white.
I would like to have a chart or something that says this color x with this color most likely = this color...

Question, what is a line-back dun? Simply any dun that has a line on it's back? How about a steel dust? What do they look like?

Last edited by EmilyJoy; 05-02-2012 at 06:13 PM.
EmilyJoy is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #132 of 160 Old 05-02-2012, 06:16 PM Thread Starter
Green Broke
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 2,504
• Horses: 2
Yea a line back dun is a dun with a line on its back. And as for steel dust I'm not sure.. the only steel dust horse I know of was a racing Quarter Horse named steel dust
Nokotaheaven is offline  
post #133 of 160 Old 05-02-2012, 06:18 PM
Yearling
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Iowa
Posts: 985
• Horses: 6
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gremmy View Post
Well that is embarrassing, all these years I've had it in my head that agouti caused black points on a red based horse as opposed to minimizing black to those points!

Now off to go read up on this until the world makes sense again...
I wish black was the dominate gene... Not enough black horses!
EmilyJoy is offline  
post #134 of 160 Old 05-02-2012, 06:20 PM Thread Starter
Green Broke
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 2,504
• Horses: 2
Lol I say there's not enough Cremellos
Nokotaheaven is offline  
post #135 of 160 Old 05-02-2012, 06:21 PM
Yearling
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Iowa
Posts: 985
• Horses: 6
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiilaa View Post
Grulla is not black with a cream gene. Black with a cream gene is smoky black, sometimes called black buckskin. Grulla is a black horse with one or two dun genes. Also, a black horse with double cream gene is a smoky cream - perlino is a bay horse with double cream.
Can you post a picture of a smoky black? It sounds pretty.

Sorry for so many posts on top of each other...I haven't figured out how to "group" them all into one post..
EmilyJoy is offline  
post #136 of 160 Old 05-02-2012, 08:51 PM
Trained
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Posts: 5,153
• Horses: 0
Well, how confused would you be if I told you that black IS the dominant gene? Also, as far as smoky black, they can look like an ordinary black horse. It's really annoying. A single copy of cream doesn't do jack to black really, that's why buckskins still have black points. Stupid cream

These horses are all smoky black.






Mods, grant me the serenity to see the opinions I cannot change, courage to change the ones that should change, and the wisdom to spot the trolls.
Chiilaa is offline  
post #137 of 160 Old 05-02-2012, 11:02 PM
Yearling
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Iowa
Posts: 985
• Horses: 6
Oh! I thought they would be a smoky/blue/black horse... :)

The grey horse that someone posted (I think on pg 4?) (The non-silver grulla ) is that what you would consider a "Steel Dust? I always thought that's what it was... It's a pretty color whatever it is...

The color stuff is really interesting...I probably should start a new thread instead of stealing this one...
EmilyJoy is offline  
post #138 of 160 Old 05-03-2012, 01:53 PM
Trained
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: North Dakota
Posts: 5,582
• Horses: 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by EmilyJoy View Post
Question, what is a line-back dun? Simply any dun that has a line on it's back? How about a steel dust? What do they look like?
All duns are "line-back duns". I'm not sure where that name came from because a horse must have a dorsal stripe, in addition to other markings, to be a dun.

Steel dust is not a color. I'm not sure where you got the term (if someone else said it earlier in the thread or someone told you it was a color). It may have been used to refer to a shade of gray in the graying process, which isn't uncommon (ie, rose gray). But all gray horses are just that: gray. Rose gray or "steel dust" is nothing fancy. It's still a gray horse. ETA: A google search of "steel dust horse" brings up pictures of a horse named Steel Dust and a few grullas. No, those are grulla horses. Nothing special about them.

And the non-silver grulla mentioned previously is not referred to as silver because there is a color gene named Silver that acts different, although that grulla may actually be colored what we consider to be the color silver.
NdAppy likes this.

Last edited by Poseidon; 05-03-2012 at 01:56 PM.
Poseidon is offline  
post #139 of 160 Old 05-03-2012, 03:31 PM Thread Starter
Green Broke
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 2,504
• Horses: 2
About the steel dust being a colour... Reading that last comment it occurred to me that there is the teim 'steel grey', so maybe steel dust is another term for that. But all I know is steel dust was a racing quarter horse. The story with him racing a horse named Shiloh is pretty famous in the quarter horse world, though besides the fact they were the two top racehorses at that time, I'm not sure why.
Nokotaheaven is offline  
post #140 of 160 Old 05-03-2012, 03:31 PM
Yearling
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Iowa
Posts: 985
• Horses: 6
Both are "western" handles that I've wondered about...

Yeah I assumed it was a term for a gray...
EmilyJoy is offline  
Reply

Tags
brindle , filly , grulla , nokota , roan

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

Already have a Horse Forum account?
Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

New to the Horse Forum?
Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.



User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.


Old Thread Warning
This thread is more than 90 days old. When a thread is this old, it is often better to start a new thread rather than post to it. However, If you feel you have something of value to add to this particular thread, you can do so by checking the box below before submitting your post.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Red Roan vs. Strawberry Roan.... calicokatt Horse Colors and Genetics 19 11-30-2012 04:17 PM
Brindle nicole25 Horse Colors and Genetics 1 10-14-2011 12:07 AM
Where is the Brindle in this horse?? Citrus Horse Colors and Genetics 16 04-06-2011 12:47 PM
Brindle MissH Horse Breeding 12 04-18-2010 09:12 AM
Brindle? i-love-stitch Horse Pictures 16 05-29-2009 04:35 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome