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    06-14-2013, 07:33 PM
Brown But Registration Says Bay?

My mare is brown, but I'm looking at her old registration from Standardbred Canada, and it says she's bay. Can anyone tell me why that might be?
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    06-14-2013, 07:38 PM
She looked bay, old color ignorant owners checked the bay box on the papers and boom, you have a "bay" horse.
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    06-14-2013, 07:40 PM
Haha alright, thanks!
    06-14-2013, 07:56 PM
Also, several registries don't recognize brown as a color. It's relatively recent that they've been able to distinguish between bay and brown genetically, so many registries just haven't caught up with the times. Not sure about Standardbred Canada.
    06-15-2013, 04:15 AM
My brown mare also has bay on her registration papers. *shrug* Some people just don't know the difference.
    06-15-2013, 04:54 AM
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I would guess that most Weatherby registered "bay" thoroughbreds probably aren't bay but brown according to colour analysis on this site - but I don't actually think it matters. If people wish to call a horse with a brown body and black legs and mane and tail "bay" then it is "bay" as far as recognising everyday colours go and in common usage if not genetically.

You are never going to stop the Irish calling their connemaras "duns" even though they don't carry the dun gene.
    06-15-2013, 09:25 AM
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My TB mare is registered dark brown/ She's a brown, but I call her bay just because I don't want to argue with people. She has all the bay points, just the slightly lighter muzzle in the winter, no soft points aside from there though.
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    06-15-2013, 11:29 AM
I'm sorry, I don't know what the difference is. I've always heard it's either bay or chestnut, or sorrell lol. Can someone enlighten me??
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    06-15-2013, 01:19 PM
Brown and bay are genetically distinct mutations of the agouti gene. Chestnut and sorrel, however, are not genetically distinguishable
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    06-15-2013, 03:02 PM
Originally Posted by verona1016    
Brown and bay are genetically distinct mutations of the agouti gene. Chestnut and sorrel, however, are not genetically distinguishable
So color-wise it's the same, but the difference is in the genes?

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