Originally Posted by MacabreMikolaj
Keep in mind there's pretty much no such thing as "dark bay" anymore. I'm fairly certain every dark bay in existence is a brown. A true bay is rather blatant and at least that deep reddish mahogany shade with sharply contrasting black legs. If you plug "dark bay" into Google, every pic that pops up is a brown.
This is exactly how I have started to think too. I am also beginning to wonder if sooty causes any change on a black based horse, or just red based. Every "sooty" bay or buckskin I have seen are brown or brown buckskin.