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post #1 of 14 Old 03-08-2013, 08:37 AM Thread Starter
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Buckskin AND bay?

Hey you guys! Have any of you ever seen photos of Timeless Assets? He is a big Bay APHA with buckskin on both sides of his neck and shoulder. He is currently showing in my hometown this weekend so I want to check him out because I love genetics.

However, because I am a color snob, saying "he is buckskin and bay" personally offends me. Haha. Obviously he has two large gold spots, is a chimera, or has a genetic mutation. Tell me what you guys think! I found these pictures via google.
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post #2 of 14 Old 03-08-2013, 09:08 AM
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That's a neat looking horse. I'm not sure what that is exactly maybe somatic mutation...???
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according to all breed pedigree, his sire is bay and his dam is sorrell. So he has to be a bay or a chestnut. Looks like even if he was a chimera, buckskin wouldnt be possible. So somatic mutation looks likely. What the difference between somatic mutation and a really large gold spot, genetically?
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He is definitely bay and I didn't consider that it could be a large gold spot? That would be neat as well.
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Tri color paint. Not uncommon.
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Tri color paint. Not uncommon.


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Tri color paint. Not uncommon.
This is an incorrect statement, true tri color paints are uncommon a bay horse with paint genes is not a tri color paint. It's just a bay horse with white patterns. These are real tri color paints also a chimeras.




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post #8 of 14 Old 03-08-2013, 10:23 AM Thread Starter
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Tri color paint. Not uncommon.

Tri-colored paint is not even a correct term. Bay paint is what you are looking for. The black, brown, and white is because he is a bay pinto. I am just wondering what genetically is causing his gold spots.
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The gold spot is just a somatic mutation IMPO. He just happens to have an extremely large one
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I'd go with some kind of localized mutation as well. I can't find any pictures of him in natural light where I'd really describe the lighter area as gold or buckskin, it's only in some of the indoor ones that I can see a slight yellowish hue to it.
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