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    04-16-2012, 02:18 PM

I have a filly who is registered as a buckskin, but I am starting to get curious. Her sire is a palomino and her dam is a dun (I do not know color genetics on either or them) but I have noticed a few dun characteristics on this filly (dorsal stripe, slight cobwebbing, slight shoulder barring, and prominent leg barring.) I don't have too many pictures of the specific areas at the moment, but if you visit my profile I have pictures of the filly. Thank you!
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    04-16-2012, 02:23 PM
From the pictures posted, she just looks buckskin to me. If you could get pictures of the spots your talking about, thatd really be helpful. Right now, based on what I see, she's buckskin.

Also a dorsal and shoulder barring can be caused by countershading and isnt always an indication of the dun gene being present.
    04-16-2012, 02:25 PM
Just from the quick glance at your mare "Doll" I really don't see anything on her that says she has dun. I just see a buckskin.
    04-16-2012, 02:26 PM
I, too, would want better pictures. From those, I'd go either way...she's a cutie!
    04-16-2012, 02:31 PM
I see a dorsal stripe allright, and if you see barring on the legs I'd go with dun. Dun is dominante(a dun horse plus a dun horse= a dun horse) so have a baby to prove it?(mostly joking)
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    04-16-2012, 02:34 PM
*cough* I would NOT breed to "prove" a color. If you want to know for sure on any horse, pull the hairs and send them to be tested. So very much cheaper than breeding...
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    04-16-2012, 02:37 PM
I said I was kiddig :)
Horsetesting.com doesn;t offer a test for it, I'm guessing UC Davis does though.

With that dorsal strip there are only three options(just skimming the basics here)
-Dunskin(carries dun and creme gene over a bay base)
-Dun(carries dun gene over a bay base)
-Smokey Buckskin(Carries the smokey and creme gene over a bay base)

Then again it could be any combination of those three...that's the joy of color genetics isn't it?
    04-16-2012, 02:41 PM
Thank you all for your input! I was thinking about color testing her maybe, just for hahas, but it's not that important to me. I will post more pictures when I get a chance!
    04-16-2012, 02:41 PM
Counter shading can and does appear on any horse. Only, and I mean only on horses carrying dun it is considered a dorsal.

Smokey buckskin? Are you meaning smokey brown/brown skin? Because cream + bay = buckskin not smokey buckskin.
    04-16-2012, 02:46 PM
Originally Posted by NdAppy    
Counter shading can and does appear on any horse. Only, and I mean only on horses carrying dun it is considered a dorsal.

Smokey buckskin? Are you meaning smokey brown/brown skin? Because cream + bay = buckskin not smokey buckskin.
The smokey gene is what causes the counter shading hence a smokey buckskin being bay, creme and the smokey gene.

It's still a dorsal stripe, it's a stripe going dowen the dorsal aspect of the horse. For breed registries I suppose it isn't. I consider the dun version to be a dun stripe...but let's not argue over terminology. Some say chestnut some say sorrel :)

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