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post #21 of 32 Old 05-02-2012, 04:07 PM
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No not bay, brown. Browns can and do have black points. Browns are also lighter around the muzzle, eyes, elbow, stifle area, and along the butt. Places that would be the last to sunfade.

Browns, and bays, are caused by agouti. Both brown and bay restrict black, but do so in different ways. Hence the reason that they can look so similar. Not all browns are super dark with lighter areas.
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No not bay, brown. Browns can and do have black points. Browns are also lighter around the muzzle, eyes, elbow, stifle area, and along the butt. Places that would be the last to sunfade.

Browns, and bays, are caused by agouti. Both brown and bay restrict black, but do so in different ways. Hence the reason that they can look so similar. Not all browns are super dark with lighter areas.
Brown and dark bay are the same thing then? Because what you described was what I was calling dark bay I wondered if the terms were interchangeable? Sorry I'm confused :/

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They can be. It really depends on the horse. Genetics (our understanding that is) is changing all the time. Makes it hard to assimilate new information when we have just gotten used to one thing and we discover another that turns us on our heads.

Basically there are three agouti (black restricting genes). Those are Bay (A), Brown (At) and Wild Bay (A+). All three restrict and affect black in different ways, but they all are on a black base coat.
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They can be. It really depends on the horse. Genetics (our understanding that is) is changing all the time. Makes it hard to assimilate new information when we have just gotten used to one thing and we discover another that turns us on our heads.

Basically there are three agouti (black restricting genes). Those are Bay (A), Brown (At) and Wild Bay (A+). All three restrict and affect black in different ways, but they all are on a black base coat.
Thanks for explaining :) What is the gene for seal brown?
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That would be Brown (At).
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So is he Seal Brown?

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Just a brown. Seal brown, black bay, and a few others are just other names for brown.
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Oh OK....well I apparently like brown....LOL ;)
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Not "Just Brown"! Bad Ass Brown!
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post #30 of 32 Old 05-02-2012, 05:59 PM
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Lol just call them BABS (Bad Ass Browns)
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