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    08-27-2012, 02:49 PM
  #41
Foal
Thanks stevenson!

Verona, the person that emailed me said that the agouti test is separate than the "At" test...pfft yeah right lol. I agree with you so I think I'll just save my money. I'm pretty sure he is smokey brown, it's not like he is a stud so it's not really a big deal!
     
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    08-27-2012, 03:01 PM
  #42
Trained
Bay agouti is dominate over brown agouti. If he was had the bay allele you would know it as he would appear as a more typical buckskin.

The test they are talking about for agouti is the test to see if he is homozygous or heterozygous. All the At test tests for is the presence of the brown allele.
     
    08-27-2012, 03:53 PM
  #43
Foal
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Originally Posted by NdAppy    
Bay agouti is dominate over brown agouti. If he was had the bay allele you would know it as he would appear as a more typical buckskin.

The test they are talking about for agouti is the test to see if he is homozygous or heterozygous. All the At test tests for is the presence of the brown allele.
So would you say he has the brown agouti because he is more brown and not as buckskin looking? Then he would have the recessive At/a pattern, correct?

Sorry, I'm just trying to understand all this!
     
    08-27-2012, 04:11 PM
  #44
Weanling
Beautiful beautiful!!
     
    08-27-2012, 04:40 PM
  #45
Trained
Yep I would say that he has no bay agouti and is carrying and displaying brown agouti. That means he has at least one copy of brown.
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    08-27-2012, 05:26 PM
  #46
Green Broke
From the test results Aiya quoted, it sounds like they did zygosity and determined he was heterozygous for At. The question just remains as to whether the other allele is 'a' or 'A.' The other test that company offers tests for the non-agouti 'a' to determine if the horse is At/a or (by process of elimination) At/A.
     
    09-03-2012, 12:19 AM
  #47
Foal
I think he is no doubt a sooty buckskin, sooty creates the countershading and brown color.
     
    09-03-2012, 10:11 AM
  #48
Trained
No the horse in question is a smokey brown/brownskin/brown buckskin. He has been genetically tested for and carries/displays the brown (At) gene.
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    01-08-2013, 03:43 PM
  #49
Foal
His sire is known to pass on the agouti gene, he has quite a few smokey brown foals. I guess that means we can almost say for certain he is At/A?

I thought I would update with some recent pictures. The mare on the left is a dun and Simon is on the right. You can see the mare's dorsal stripe and Simon's fake dorsal stripe aka counter shading.


Here is a picture of his face with his winter coat and bandit mask :)


I love his colour changes from season to season, so interesting.
     
    01-08-2013, 04:03 PM
  #50
Trained
He would have to be Ata. If he had A (the bay form of agouti) he would be a regular buckskin.
     

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