Can a horse pass on appy genes or be an appaloosa without looking like one?

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Can a horse pass on appy genes or be an appaloosa without looking like one?

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    04-04-2013, 02:58 PM
Can a horse pass on appy genes or be an appaloosa without looking like one?

My mare who is due to foal any day now has appys in her papers. She has a white stripe down her belly and I see two little little spots of white on her body which I always figured was maybe her past owners had something two tight on her and she lost circulation or whatever one is on her back the other is on her shoulder. I never thought anything about those but I saw someone talking the other day about how appys are the only kind of horse who have striped hooves? Is this true? My mare has that. Is it possible she has some appy genes that could be passed down to the foal? Appy genes are way to confusing for me to under stand.
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    04-04-2013, 03:00 PM
Yes, it's quite possible. My best friend had a registered appy gelding who most people thought was a QH or TB because he had zero appy characteristics.
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    04-04-2013, 03:01 PM

Forgot pictures. I don't have one of her hooves but you can see from pics she does not look appy.
    04-04-2013, 03:06 PM
An Appaloosa can be so minimally expressed that it can pass for a non-Appaloosa, while still carrying the genes. Does this mean every horse with Appaloosa parentage carries? No. Two heterozygous parents have a 25% chance of producing a non-gene carrying foal. However, it is certainly possible to pass on the gene if she is actually carrying the gene and is minimally expressed, and the foal can end up more loudly coloured then the parent.

Is she bred to an Appaloosa stallion?
    04-04-2013, 08:02 PM
If there is appaloosa in her background, either she didn't inherit the appaloosa genes, or she is non characteristic. Either way, her chances of producing a spotted foal to a non spotted stallion are really quite low.

Striped hooves are an appaloosa characteristic, but they are not the only one. She should also have a white scelera, and mottled skin. Striped hooves can be caused by other colours, or by other genes completely.
    04-05-2013, 10:06 AM
You didn't say how old she is. If she is around 5 or less, it is not yet definitive she doesn't have LP...some Appys don't display color and characteristics till 5 or 6. Also, without pictures of the white spots, I can't determine if they are meaningful or not...a couple of very small dime sized white spots is an indicator of varnish roan that will develop later, but again, no pictures to tell...
    04-05-2013, 10:49 AM
Yep. We have a "Heinz 57"
His skin is all appy underneath, but he's a dun. It's pretty cool
    04-05-2013, 11:49 AM
This horse is half Appaloosa and his coloring changes a lot and he is never the same color. And it doesn't translate well in the pictures but his coat has a silvery sheen. He is also a sooty gene which makes him dark. One year he was completely silver looking it was really cool. He is chestnut in color. We figure what causes his many coat changes is LP from his appy sire. So he may not have spots but he is still a neat colored chestnut but don't ask me to explain how LP works I have not ventured into the complicated color world of appy's yet.

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