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Can a Roan also be a Dun?

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    12-03-2012, 09:42 PM
Originally Posted by twp    
I looked up "bay roan dun" nothing.. I found a "grullo roan dun" a perlino dun, a bay dun, classic dun, and my all time favorite.. Red dun. :)

I also read about AQHA saying "bay roan dun" doesn't exist?.. I guess, it's hard to point out on a bay roan, since the face is masked, and it has the agouti gene from the bay coloring.. Or would the zebra striping give it away, along with the webbing on the face?

Can a horse that isn't a dun have the zebra striping? I used to ride an older solid black Quarter Horse mare, that had white zebra striping.. so That makes me curious.. She was a Non Fading black/ true back, if that helps.

Could a cremello even be a dun?.. The only way to see that would be DNA testing, right?
The AQHA doesn't know jack about colours, so not surprising they said something like that.

Dun is a gene that is not "tied" to anything else, so it can be present on ANY colour of horse. In fact, most genes are in horses, with a very limited exception.

The markings usually considered to be "dun factor" can be present in horses without the dun gene. My fave example is this guy. He is a purebred Arabian, so cannot possibly have dun.

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    12-03-2012, 09:53 PM
Yep, as Chiilaa said, dun can appear on any color. A lot of equine colors work that way. I found an ad for a colt who is a triple dilute amber cream dun champagne with tobiano and frame.

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Some horses can have pretty neat color combinations.
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    12-03-2012, 10:12 PM
Here is a picture of what dun looks like on a dilute:

That picture above and the one below are from an AQHA stallion named Morgan Dun N Stone.
I could only imagine what he's actually registered as, but he has tested as perlino champagne dun roan. But since he's so light, he really just looks like a perlino at first glance.
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    12-03-2012, 10:19 PM
I love all the pics. Crazy color combinations going on.. That tripple dilute is a little beef cake!! Lol. How adorable!

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