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post #1 of 41 Old 07-31-2013, 11:44 PM Thread Starter
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Can a sorrel eventually roan out?

My 10 month old is a sorrel... But today I noticed he is getting a lot of white hairs on his stomach and left side. Its looks like roaning almost... But is it possible at this age? Or is it something else?

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post #2 of 41 Old 08-01-2013, 12:56 AM
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Is it possible that one of his parents has the rabicano gene? Or does he have high white socks that might be sabino? Most roans I know of look roan pretty much from the get go. Once they shed their foal coat, it's quite obvious, the white flecked body, with dark face and legs. If he were really roan, his whole body should be speckled with white hairs. Pictures would help if you have some you could post. Maybe several from birth to now, so we can see his coat progression.
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If he were a true roan you'd most likely see it after his foal shed. Also a roan MUST have a roan parent. It could be a different ticking pattern like sabino or rabicano or it could just be funky foal coat. Can you post pics? What do the parents look like?
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I will post pictures today or tomorrow.. I didnt think to take any. He has 3 high socks (not quite stockings) and a blaze.. Other then that.. No white. His sire is Bay Overo and his dam is Black Overo.
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They did produce a foal awhile back that was a sorrel with the white area getting bigger (she passed away young due to an accident)..

As I am not framiliar with sabino or rabicano.. How can you tell if they have this trait? Is it due to markings?
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Yes there are specific traits to both sabino and rabicano. Post pics of the parents if you can. Also I'm not sure your aware and I'm not attackig you or anything but it is not safe to breed overo to overo because I'm betting by you saying they're overo they are likely frame. Frame in homozygous form (a foal inherits a frame gene from each parent) if that happens is 100% lethal. There is a 25% chance per breeding that could occur. It called overo lethal white syndrome. So you likely dodged a bullet with that breeding. Anyways, I can't wait to see the pics!
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I will post them as soon as I get on the computer. And yes, I am aware... I am not the breeder of the overos. The dam has produced 2 lethal whites... And the sire was gelded after my boy was born.
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Okay. Here is Mommy
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Here is Daddy (Son of Mr.Shameless!)





Here is my boy










I will try to get some close ups of the white hair spots in question as soon as I can!
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My 10 month old is a sorrel... But today I noticed he is getting a lot of white hairs on his stomach and left side. Its looks like roaning almost... But is it possible at this age? Or is it something else?

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Simply put ------------ Yes they can.

My current solid sorrel TWH stayed a solid sorrel until he was around 15. He is now 19 and has "roaned out" to about 30% of white hairs. I was not happy but that's what happens when your lineage goes back to a horse named "Roan Allen".

Conversely I had a solid sorrel Arab/Saddlebred that I raised from birth until the cancer got him at age 29. Even with the cancer, his coat remained solid sorrel to the end.
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I have had several sorrels and I have never noticed this with them. He is a paint.. If that helps. I am kinda hoping he roans out..hehe
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