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  • Truman soe arabian stallion pedigree
  • "truman soe" palomino

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    01-05-2013, 02:42 AM
  #11
Trained
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Originally Posted by jillybean19    
Are you positive he's pure? I'm currently drooling over a buckskin Arab.... That beautiful color somehow came out in the 1/64 of that horse that isn't pure Arab. If this horse is pure, what color is this? I've never seen it.
Actually, given that WS posted him, and said that she has plenty of "red chestnuts" but would like one this shade, I am fairly sure that he will turn out to be a purebred.
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    01-05-2013, 02:44 AM
  #12
Yearling
Oh, I thought that Chiilaa said he was - I missed the "If"
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    01-05-2013, 03:04 AM
  #13
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Originally Posted by Chiilaa    
Actually, given that WS posted him, and said that she has plenty of "red chestnuts" but would like one this shade, I am fairly sure that he will turn out to be a purebred.
Good point - I guess we'll have to see what WS says! Where did you find him? Name? Lines?
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    01-05-2013, 12:15 PM
  #14
Trained
He's at the very bottom of this page - Journey's End Opportunities - Colts for Sale

Here is his pedigree - Truman Soe Arabian
     
    01-05-2013, 12:19 PM
  #15
Yearling
Pretty boy! WS buy him and pic spam us ;)
     
    01-05-2013, 12:20 PM
  #16
Yearling
There are constantly mutations in meiosis, it may not necessarily be true for this foal, but couldn't a dilute gene eventually appear in the Arab breed?
     
    01-05-2013, 12:22 PM
  #17
Trained
It would have to be a completely new mutation.

None of the currently testable dilute genes (cream, silver, champagne, etc) are found within the Arabian breed.
     
    01-05-2013, 12:23 PM
  #18
Yearling
They will be soon if people keep fudging papers.
     
    01-05-2013, 12:50 PM
  #19
Yearling
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Originally Posted by AQHA13    
There are constantly mutations in meiosis, it may not necessarily be true for this foal, but couldn't a dilute gene eventually appear in the Arab breed?
I'd say if it hasn't shown up in the 4,000 or so years that Arabs have been around, I doubt it'll show up anytime soon, if ever.

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They will be soon if people keep fudging papers.
This is true, but I doubt AHA would every allow a horse be registered if it did have a dilute gene and I believe Arabs meant to be bred have to have their DNA on file or something like that. So, fudged papers would only result in one horse being "Arabian" that wasn't, rather than having the dilute gene introduced and passed on.
     
    01-05-2013, 12:52 PM
  #20
Yearling
The color says Pali, so he's not straight arabian. There's a dilute gene hidden in there somewhere, even though all the horses listed there are Arab. Like I said, this is a case where they're technically "half-arab", even though there's only one horse way back that wasn't an Arab and passed on that gene.

Edit: It's only listed as Pali on ABP, which can be notoriously wrong on occasion. According to the website, he's chestnut, which would make it possible to still be straight Arab.
     

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