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Chestnut or Dark Palomino? also Satin Gene??

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    04-16-2012, 10:43 PM
  #21
Weanling
Woo! And I have to take an Equine Genetics class eventually so I just might ace it!
     
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    04-16-2012, 11:17 PM
  #22
Weanling
I'm no help at all but I want to take a equine genetics class!

Oh and OP your mare is very pretty!
     
    04-18-2012, 02:23 AM
  #23
Foal
Sorrel all the way. Not quite dark/dirty enough to be a true chestnut imo. Although with as light as she is in her clipped pic she might be a red dun but only if she is a lineback otherwise I would stick with Chestnut or sorrel
     
    04-18-2012, 02:36 AM
  #24
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Nuala    
Sorrel all the way. Not quite dark/dirty enough to be a true chestnut imo. Although with as light as she is in her clipped pic she might be a red dun but only if she is a lineback otherwise I would stick with Chestnut or sorrel
Sorrel and chestnut are the same colour. And the OP's horse is not a dun - clipped coats are not at all useful for looking at colour.
     
    04-18-2012, 02:47 AM
  #25
Foal
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Originally Posted by Chiilaa    
Sorrel and chestnut are the same colour. And the OP's horse is not a dun - clipped coats are not at all useful for looking at colour.
Not here they aren't Sorrels are straight red basically bright and copper and chestnuts are reddish shades of brown.

Sorrel


Chestnut
     
    04-18-2012, 02:56 AM
  #26
Green Broke
Genetically, they are the same. They are both ee as opposed to E_. Shade can vary, just like bay, black and other colours. They are still the same thing.
     
    04-18-2012, 03:00 AM
  #27
Started
In the case of sorrel/chestnut, we aren't talking genetics. We're talking what different people in different areas learned use in reference to red horses. In my case I always thought a chestnut was a red horse (any shade copper to rust) whose mane and tail matched the body color while sorrels were a red horse with a flaxen mane and tail.

As for the OP's post, I feel that you are trying too hard to convince yourself that your mare's color is something you value more, when in fact she is beautiful and unique even as a chestnut.
     
    04-18-2012, 03:02 AM
  #28
Green Broke
The term used was "true chestnut". That sounds genetic to me. As far as sorrel/chestnut, well the terms can mean different things to different people. That's no reason to continue the ambiguity if you know better.
     
    04-18-2012, 03:09 AM
  #29
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I felt this was most appropriate in this case. Sorrel vs chestnut is a perfectly valid distinction among certain horse communities. It's not an ambiguity being continued because people "who ought to know better" are perpetuating it. This is literally a difference in semantics. No one is right or wrong. Here in my area, the difference between chestnuts/sorrels IS valid and true. Where you're hanging out in Australia, I'm perfectly happy to recognize that it may be equally invalid. Either way, it doesn't really matter does it?
     
    04-18-2012, 03:19 AM
  #30
Green Broke
It's only valid because people continue to perpetuate a falsehood - that they are different. It's the same as people who still insist on using the term "overo", or "tovero". We KNOW that they are no different. Why continue to differentiate them?
     

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