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post #21 of 47 Old 03-15-2012, 09:38 AM
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Registries are notorious for being decades behind in colour knowledge anyway.

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post #22 of 47 Old 03-15-2012, 09:39 AM
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Registries in the US aren't using the DNA for color either... it's all parent verification.
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post #23 of 47 Old 03-15-2012, 09:51 AM Thread Starter
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well I don't know what they did with her sires dna but all I know is he's a chestnut paint... she's a palomino paint and her dam is a solid chestnut tb...

Go figure >_<'
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Registries can only go on what they see in the pics and the owner tells them.
I'm picking up a QH mare today that was registered brown... considering that I'm also picking up her perlino filly that would be difficult.
Actually I got them dna verified. Mom is Ee aa nCr and baby is EE Aa CrCr.
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Registries can only go on what they see in the pics and the owner tells them.
I'm picking up a QH mare today that was registered brown... considering that I'm also picking up her perlino filly that would be difficult.
Actually I got them dna verified. Mom is Ee aa nCr and baby is EE Aa CrCr.
so even though her sires papers say he's a chestnut paint his dna could prove he's something different...

Or she could be registered as pally but not be...

Correct?
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Pretty much.

If sire was truly a chestnut and dam truly a chestnut there would be no other option for you filly than chestnut/sorrel.
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My first though was the pearl gene could be at play here.. them I saw your pictures.. no way.. the pearl gene will not turn manes and tails blond.. it merely gives a sorrel coat a peachy sheen..
Reputable or not the breeder has messed up somewhere.. the creme gene does not skip generations. One of her parents carries a creme gene.. no other option is possible..have her tested..
Now you say she is a paint.. is she registered APHA..? If she is there will be DNA on file for the sire and dam..

You state the stud didn't have any palominostallions at the time.. the sire or dam wouldn't have to be palomino.. just has to carry the cream gene..
A sorrel horse with cream is palomino
A bay horse with cream is buckskin
A black horse with Cream is smoky black..
And there are a million other options when you start playing with genetics..
What you mare got from her parents is the red gene and the cream gene.. that's what makes her palomino..
Good luck.. if you share with us her pedigree, I may be able to give you a tad more insight..
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so even though her sires papers say he's a chestnut paint his dna could prove he's something different...

Or she could be registered as pally but not be...

Correct?
Is it possible for you to be able to track down a picture of either one of her parents?

Also, for example: My BOs just got an AQHA mare that's registered as a blue roan. She's a brown rabicano. My mare's dam's parents are also registered as black and chestnut. She's a buckskin. Her sire, grandsire, and greatgrandsire are all registered black but have to be smoky black in order to get the cream gene.
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Do you know the sire and dams registered name?

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post #30 of 47 Old 03-15-2012, 07:16 PM Thread Starter
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the sire is Steppas Bar Room Romeo registration number 4672 listed on the paint horse association as chestnut overo born 1997 still active in stud duties

Found this googling his name a while back:
Steppas Bar Room Romeo Paint

Her dam is Glance A Munda - chestnut tb mare born 1985 registration number 232-904
Glance a Munda Horse Pedigree
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