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    02-15-2012, 09:30 PM
Color thoughts on this mare

This mare has everyone stumped. Everyone had ended up calling her grey so far but I just for some reason feel that is incorrect. Even some of the show stewards have looked at her and her papers and said I would not consider her grey but OK. They never really gave opinions on what she was though.
In the summer this mare is dark bluish grey with almost black legs, black tail and her mane is the same color as her body. This picture here is of her going into winter. Fairly wooly.
This is a link to a post of her from a while ago, pics are dark but more of what she looks like in the summer.

Sire says he is a black and white pinto and dam is a dark sorrel pinto. Grand parents on sire side are cremello pinto(sire) and unlisted on the dam. The grandparents on dam side are cremello(dam) and sorrel(sire). Little mare goes back to Boone's Little Andy. Here he is. He was pinto also.
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    02-15-2012, 09:40 PM
Skin color? Eye color?
    02-15-2012, 09:52 PM
Ah, crap. I hit post before I meant to! Here is the link to the summer pics.
My Little Bre Bre (Brea) and I do mean LITTLE!!!
Here is Boone's Little Andy, her great grandsire.
Eyes are very deep dark brown
Skin is a medium shade of grey, sorry I messed up earlier!
    02-15-2012, 09:54 PM
Hmm...would love to see more pictures of both summer and winter coat...clearer/larger.

Oh..and nice to see a fellow southern Ohioan! LOL
    02-15-2012, 10:33 PM
Her sire has to be smoky black if his sire was a cremello. Not surprising to be mixed up because cream hides on black, making smoky black look the same as a normal black.

Cremello + sorrel = palomino 100% of the time, so her dam was a palomino. No doubt about that if that's what her parents actually are. She may just be very dark and look sorrel.

The only thing I can see this mare being is smoky black. Summer pictures would help greatly.
    02-15-2012, 10:43 PM
I am lacking the summer pics of her! I can get all the nice ultra fuzzy winter ones possible! Haha, these are not any help. I will take good ones of her tomorrow while the sun (hopefully) is out before I go to work. Summer pics I am severely lacking in for some reason. I have one decent summer pic of her as a yearling when she was auctioned off. I will include it, but will definitely get some tomorrow morning.



I did send an email to the breeders of her to see if they maybe had some more info on her background or photos of at least sire and dam.
    02-15-2012, 11:28 PM
I have found some pics of grandparents, no luck on parents!
l Hooten Hollow's Austin T grandsire to her.
Jandts Our Champion is her dam's sire
The Stallions
No pic but did find out the grand dam to Brea is black.
Found a old sale ad that unfortunately was deleted for Brea's dam.
Great grandsire on dams side was palomino, no pics.
Great grandsire on sires side was black pinto, no pics.
Great grand dam on on dams side was appaloosa.

Now I officially have a headache...
    02-15-2012, 11:30 PM
I'm definitely going with Smokey Black. She seems to have the correct genes for this. A simple $25 test will tell you for sure is she carries cream.
    02-15-2012, 11:38 PM
Originally Posted by CLaPorte432    
I'm definitely going with Smokey Black. She seems to have the correct genes for this. A simple $25 test will tell you for sure is she carries cream.
I was giving the test some very thorough thought. I probably will do it anyway, just cause when I questioned the registry about it they told me she was grey from the pics I sent them, which I do not have copies of. So in order for her to register correctly I will probably have to get her tested.
    02-16-2012, 10:36 AM
Here are pictures of her from this morning. She is shedding horrendously right now so I brushed the best I could.2012-02-16_09-54-09_602.jpg


The brown looking areas are where the sun discolored her.

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