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post #1 of 13 Old 02-15-2012, 09:02 PM Thread Starter
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Arrow Confusion on roan! Strawberry vs. Red

Hi guys. I'm soo horribly confused on strawberry roan and red roan.
I know what they look like but i'm unsure how they are genetically different.

Is it the difference that one if chestnut with flaxen or what?


Thanks for the help.
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I believe they are both genetically the same. They are both e/e because if it was anything different you'd end up with E+/e or E+/E+ which would give you a black based horse, not red.

So I believe it's just the phenotype (appearance) that is different, not the genotype. (genetics)

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They are exactly the same. Different names for one color.
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They are exactly the same. Different names for one color.
That's what I have always heard.
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Ok thank you guys for the help <3
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also red can be bay roans....most people where I live call bay roans--red roan, chestnut roans--strawberry roan.

So for that reason alone...I like to call them bay roan, chestnut roan, etc....LOL. Blue roan is the about the only one I don't call Base Color + Roan.
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Around here red roan and bay roan are more or less two terms for the same color, bay roan. A bay horse with roan. Where as 'strawberry roan' refers to a chestnut/sorrel based roan. I've also heard strawberry roan referred to as 'red roan' around here though.

Just as well, in this area I occasionally see blue roan called Black Roan, since blue roan is a black horse with roan.
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Red Roan or Strawberry Roan describes true or classic roan on a chestnut base coat. The mane and tail remain red or have only a few white hairs, while the body ranges from nearly chestnut to pinkish. Geneticists prefer the term "chestnut roan," but this term is not in common use.
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Hi guys. I'm soo horribly confused on strawberry roan and red roan.
I know what they look like but i'm unsure how they are genetically different.

Is it the difference that one if chestnut with flaxen or what?


Thanks for the help.
Depends where you live. It's very regional. In most areas Strawberry Roan/Red Roan/Chestnut Roan are all the same, but some areas call Bay Roan/Red Roan the same.

My preferred usage (which they use in Welsh ponies ) is chestnut roan, bay roan and black roan (though blue roan isn't usually confused with anything else, so that one is usually more interchangable).
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I always thought
Red roans were bays with roaning
& strawberry roans were chestnut with roaning
Blue roans black with roaning.

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