Originally Posted by smrobs
While it can be done without holes (I mean 12 rides and already up in a curb) on the right horse with the right trainer, I seriously doubt they have the knowledge to do it. While there are some really nice horses that they've started, I'm like you. I would never adopt one that was beyond just halter broke. I'm too darn picky about how my horses are started and ridden LOL.
With how picky I am, IMO there is no way i'd have a horse in a curb after 12 rider, other people, maybe but I have very high expectations of my horses. I want a solid w/t//l on a loose rein, w/t/ a straight line without wiggling around, loping a circle on a loose rein without any nagging, backing up softly, side passing, rollbacks, getting off my inside leg, slowing and stopping off my seat, counterbending, counter cantering, be able to collect and do flying changes all before my horses advance to a curb.
I'd much rather adopt something untouched. I'm lazy, I would much rather have a blank slate than have to do twice as much work untraining bad habits and replacing them correct ones.