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    12-17-2012, 03:07 PM
could she be tovero?

I know my mare is tobiano, but the way her neck marking is trying to go horizontal with her neck is throwing me off. I'll have her and my stud tested for frame before he is almost certainly overo. His mother was tovero, and he shows many characteristics.

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    12-17-2012, 03:12 PM
Tobiano does not cause face white. So yes, your mare has some overo gene.
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    12-17-2012, 03:15 PM
Thank you! That's ruled breeding her to my stud out. I may just sell her as she doesn't suit my requirements. Would you guess frame overo, splash, or sabino? I doubt sabino as she has very clear edges to her spots...but her facial white does cover her lower lip.
    12-17-2012, 03:55 PM
*sigh* Tovero is a catch all word for Tobiano and some other pattern.

Why don't you just test her? It's $25 to test for frame and then you will know for sure if she is a frame carrier...

Your "stud" I am guessing is the palomino?
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    12-17-2012, 04:50 PM
Because now I'm not breeding her and it's just out of curiosity. The colt may end up a gelding too if he has less than stellar conformation.
    12-18-2012, 01:26 PM
You can still breed her depending what overo gene she has. They are not all lethal. Frame is the only overo gene you need to be concerned about. Splash and sabino are also overo genes. Just get her tested. If it is the palomino, I hope they still aren't turned out together like they are in some of the pictures.
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    12-18-2012, 02:39 PM
Im thinking it's frame overo that she has. Because of the horizontal white on her neck and widening of the blaze at the top. She may have splash or sabino as she has white on her bottom lip and her white isn't even on both sides. Frame Overo is the only gene I'm worried about. In my circle of horse people we refer to frame as plain overo, and we use sabino and splash without saying sabino overo. So for us, tovero is tobiano and frame. I know, I should have been more specific.
    12-23-2012, 01:50 AM
Tovero should just be tossed out, IMHO.

Don't Splashiano, Framiano, and Sabiano sound cooler? XD (joking, joking)
    12-23-2012, 11:13 AM
Originally Posted by Reno Bay    
Tovero should just be tossed out, IMHO.

Don't Splashiano, Framiano, and Sabiano sound cooler? XD (joking, joking)
Lol! YES. I would adopt a Splashiano just to be able to say that is what it is!
    01-03-2013, 01:43 PM
My Palomino colt will be turned out with the girls until he shows interest in them. It's critical for him to be socialized with other horses. As of yet he doesn't drop unless he's urinating. The mares chase him off if he gets too close. He's also not dropped yet. As soon as I see one the gates are being closed. Lol. I'm prepared. My fence for him is 4 strand electric, 7 foot high with a walkway between his and the mares pastures. Two fences are harder to get through than one.

Splashiano, framiano, sabiano, etc have now been adopted into my vocab. There will be no more tovero. (My friends already know I'm crazy)
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