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post #1 of 5 Old 03-04-2011, 09:13 PM Thread Starter
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Cream + Black = ?

Say you had a smoky black mare who has the cream gene. Then you have a stallion of the same breed who is black (has passed his color onto his progeny), what color would you have?

My best bet would be another smoky black, because that's what it is, right? A black horse diluted by the cream gene (I think). Is that true?

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post #2 of 5 Old 03-04-2011, 10:17 PM
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These would be your options, but they could change depending on whether one of them was homozygous for black.

37.50% - Smoky Black
37.50% - Black
12.50% - Palomino
12.50% - Chestnut
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post #3 of 5 Old 03-04-2011, 10:45 PM
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Now, if you took that Smokey Black mare and paired her with, say, a Cremello stud. Would you then have a chance for Palomino or Buckskin?

Completely off the original topic, buuut Poseidon seems to have covered it

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post #4 of 5 Old 03-04-2011, 11:19 PM
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You'd be equally likely to get a perlino, smoky cream, or another cremello because the cremello would ALWAYS throw a cream gene and then there'd be a 50% chance of the cream gene from the smokey black being passed down. If it only gets one cream gene, then you'd get smoky black, buckskin or palomino.

Let us see what the colour calculator actually says! (That's where I got the percentages before.)


25.00% - Palomino
25.00% - Cremello
12.50% - Smoky Cream
12.50% - Smoky Black
12.50% - Perlino
12.50% - Buckskin

Those are without knowing whether the cremello is non-Agouti, heterozygous for Agouti, or homozygous for Agouti or if it is a Non-Silver carrier, heterozygous Silver or homozygous silver. I just used the "Unknown" setting, but that can change the outcome drastically.
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post #5 of 5 Old 03-06-2011, 01:59 AM
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And if the smokey black is homozygous black, no palomino or cremellos.
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