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  • Dark bay horse genetic
  • Difference between seal brown and dark bay

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    04-17-2013, 05:30 PM
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Foal
Dark Bay? Brown?

I think I need to do a test on this beautiful old mare, but anyone want to tell me what colour she is?

     
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    04-17-2013, 06:02 PM
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Trained
Brown.
goneriding and Northernstar like this.
     
    04-17-2013, 06:56 PM
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Trained
Yay, I guessed the same a Nd!!!! You're all going to me make color informed yet!
     
    04-17-2013, 06:59 PM
  #4
Started
Beautiful brown!
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    04-17-2013, 07:02 PM
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Foal
Yeah, that's what I think too. We thought originally she was a bay, but I'm thinking that brown muzzle looks suspiciously...BROWN.

Thanks!
     
    04-17-2013, 07:07 PM
  #6
Banned
Brown momma. I like how the brown travels up the side of her face.. neat lookin.
     
    04-17-2013, 08:53 PM
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Foal
Sounds as if 100% of the vote is for BROWN, so I think I will go with that. Thanks everyone .
     
    04-18-2013, 10:44 AM
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Green Broke
I do believe general consensus is that there is "no such thing" as dark bay - dark bay's are actually browns and were labelled dark bay before we labelled the gene for brown.

I could be wrong, someone correct me, but I can't remember the last time I saw a pic of a "dark bay" that wasn't actually brown.

She's definitely brown though. About as classic brown as it gets!
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    04-18-2013, 04:16 PM
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Green Broke
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Originally Posted by MacabreMikolaj    
I do believe general consensus is that there is "no such thing" as dark bay - dark bay's are actually browns and were labelled dark bay before we labelled the gene for brown.

I could be wrong, someone correct me, but I can't remember the last time I saw a pic of a "dark bay" that wasn't actually brown.

She's definitely brown though. About as classic brown as it gets!
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I'm not 100% sure there's no such thing as a dark bay. I kind of think of it like this: agouti restricts the expression of black (in different ways depending on whether it's classic, seal, or wild bay) and reveals the "underlying" red. I don't see why that red couldn't vary in shade just as much as chestnut (from bright "sorrel" to liver chestnut)

This is, of course, just my theory, since I haven't seen a lot of horses that have been tested for At specifically to really confirm or deny. I wish I had a bunch of money to spend on testing; there are a bunch of horses at my barn that I'd love to see what their results are!
     
    04-18-2013, 07:10 PM
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Yes, there are dark bays. If you research how to identify seal brown, they often use a dark bay horse as a comparison to show the differences between bay and brown. I'm not into bays, so am clueless how common they are, though...
     

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