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    10-31-2012, 10:29 PM
  #31
Weanling
Yep, Grulla = black dun
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    11-01-2012, 01:17 AM
  #32
Yearling
I know the pictures suck and the ones I have on this computer suck too, the better ones are on my laptop that crashed. The mares dam was a red dun solid, her sire is listed as a brown tovero. The sires dam is listed as a brown tobiano, sire is listed as a black solid. I don't know if that helps at all. I don't see any red in the colts coat, so I don't think chestnut or bay, brown possibly.
     
    11-01-2012, 01:30 AM
  #33
Yearling
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Has she had any other foals. That would be cool if she is Homozygous For the Dun factor !! This foal already says yes for the possiblity :)
This is her first foal.
     
    11-04-2012, 02:27 AM
  #34
Yearling
The pics are not very good, but based on the info I'm going to say grulla. I 'think' I remember seeing other,clearer pics of him younger and at the time thought he looked bay dun, but since that is not possible, he does look black based and dun, so grulla is most likely.
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    11-17-2012, 08:45 PM
  #35
Foal
He would be considered a dun tobiano....Grulla's are a mousey color: not as brown but more smokey
     
    11-17-2012, 08:48 PM
  #36
Foal
Oh, and he's not a bay....Bay's don't have any frosting, dorsal stripes, or zebra stripes and there's no such thing as a bay dun I'm pretty he's a coyote dun...he's darker than most but he's still coyote dun
     
    11-17-2012, 08:56 PM
  #37
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Allegro    
He would be considered a dun tobiano....Grulla's are a mousey color: not as brown but more smokey
Grulla is decided by their genes, not their displaying colour. Grulla is a black horse with dun genes.
     
    11-17-2012, 09:00 PM
  #38
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Allegro    
Oh, and he's not a bay....Bay's don't have any frosting, dorsal stripes, or zebra stripes
Really? They can't? Are you sure? These are from the same horse, who cannot possibly be dun...






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Originally Posted by Allegro    
and there's no such thing as a bay dun I'm pretty he's a coyote dun...he's darker than most but he's still coyote dun
There IS such a thing as bay dun - it's the "normal" dun colouring, or the one that most people just call "dun". Like this guy:


Not really sure what you mean when you say "coyote dun" though. There is no such thing as that, unless it's a regional name for a shade of dun that has no meaning to anyone outside of that region.
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    11-17-2012, 09:06 PM
  #39
Trained
Coyote dun is just a shade of dun. Its the dark sooty color, more then likely "brown dun" to be technically correct. But since theres no such thing as bay+dun, there wouldnt be a brown+dun either...
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    11-17-2012, 09:09 PM
  #40
Foal
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Grulla is decided by their genes, not their displaying colour. Grulla is a black horse with dun genes.
I know that. But the correct name for it isn't bay dun its Coyote dun. Bay is just referring to the base coat color from which it was modified.
     

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