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        09-02-2012, 08:14 PM
    What beautiful babies!
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        09-02-2012, 10:00 PM
    Originally Posted by CLaPorte432    
    Ive seen quite a few actually. She's technically "tovero" which is overo and tobiano. Chances are she's tobiano and the overo gene splash.

    And she is not a medicine hat.
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    that would make sense as several generations back on her sire's side a dam was a black/tobiano/overo :) Thank you!
        09-02-2012, 10:02 PM
    Thank you guys so much for the pics and info! I really enjoyed them and found it very useful. Now to determine a price..and kick myself later for selling her :/
        09-02-2012, 11:25 PM
    Very pretty Tovero!
        09-03-2012, 05:01 PM
    The filly is not a "medicine hat". Too much colour on the face. Since her sire has tested homozygous for Tobiano, she is no doubt, Tobiano. Just a maximum expression of it. She possibly also has splash and some type of sabino in there.

    For most I think, it's best to forget about the terms tovero and overo. These outdated terms, still used within the APHA in no way, are the correct terms for the coat patterns found in horses. Until they get it right though, people will still use such terms and it is correct only for those registered with the APHA and going by their (unfortunate) standards. True colour genetic gurus, would never use either term.

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        09-03-2012, 10:26 PM
    Green Broke
    I HAVE A gelding kinda like what you guys are talking about:) I believe..
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        09-03-2012, 10:42 PM
    Originally Posted by brandy little    
    Thank you guys so much for the pics and info! I really enjoyed them and found it very useful. Now to determine a price..and kick myself later for selling her :/
    I can't help you at all with the color besides telling you that, yes, I have seen quite a few horses with her coloring. But I did want to ask you about this post. Are you trying to come up with a price based on her coloring? Because that will not get you very far at all.. based on just that I would say maybe $450 around here. What have her dam and sire done?
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        09-03-2012, 11:25 PM
    First of all, tovero is extremely outdated. Yes, she will unfortunately be registered as that because the APHA sucks like that.

    Second, she is a chestnut because both of her parents are chestnut. Red + red always = red.

    Third, she is tobiano because she has to be with if one parent is homozygous. I don't know what her parents look like to tell you if they do, in fact, have more than one pattern. Pictures would be very helpful. A pedigree too. I can tell you though that just because her dam is registered solid does not mean that she does not carry a white pattern, it just means that the APHA did not think she showed enough white to be deemed worthy of regular papers. I would guess the filly is also splash and possibly frame.
        09-05-2012, 09:55 PM
    Originally Posted by stevenson    
    yep , lots of them. Medicine hat paint.
    Not a medicine hat!!!

    She's Tovero
        09-05-2012, 09:58 PM
    Here's my medicine hat:
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