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post #1 of 5 Old 07-24-2011, 09:37 AM Thread Starter
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An Extensive Color Reference Sheet

This was NOT MADE BY ME! Please give credit to the artist on deviantArt. She has requested that the image itself not be reposted (I'm assuming this is so she gets proper credit for it. That's fair, because this thing probably took a while!) The credit goes to Cedarseed at deviantArt, who can be found at cedarseed.deviantart.com
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I couldn't get all the way through it in the short time I had to read, but I would love to hear opinions. The artist would be more than happy to hear if there are any small changes to be made. I think this is awesome!

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post #2 of 5 Old 07-26-2011, 11:48 PM
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First thing I notice is that brown is in the wrong place. It is NOT caused by mealy, but is caused by a third mutation of the agouti gene, so it should be with the other bay type colours. The theory that brown is a black horse with pangare has been let go as incorrect, and currently it is believed that pangare does not act on black hair. Again, brown buckskin has been labelled as 'black' buckskin, which is actually another name for smoky black and not a brown single dilute.

Again, another label that is not correct - a 'wall eye' is used here to describe the white scelera that is an appaloosa characteristic, but a wall eye is actually referring to a blue eye.

In terms of the white patterns and their descriptions, it is still early days in genetic testing, and some conclusions are drawn that not everyone agrees with. For example, it is often argued if tobiano can cause a medicine hat or not, and without being able to test for splash and more than sabino one, plus knowing there are plenty of dominant white mutations we haven't found the genes for, it is a bit game to say that it does for sure cause it. Another bone I have to pick is saying "tovero" - I personally hate it, it is lumping so many different possibilities together in a circumstance when they shouldn't.

Aside from those small points, it is a good chart

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post #3 of 5 Old 07-27-2011, 07:50 PM
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I agree with Chiilaa in her critique other than that it's a very nice chart.
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post #4 of 5 Old 07-27-2011, 11:21 PM
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I love that chart. I'm no expert, but I want to print that and put it on my wall.
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post #5 of 5 Old 07-28-2011, 06:26 PM Thread Starter
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I got a response from the artist about Chiilaa's analysis:

"Oh, thanks! I will look more closely into the brown being a form of agouti, but enough genetics page separate it from bay for me to keep it separate as it just makes more sense that way (given it's not pointed).
Noted about the wall eye.
I understand some genetics are not understood (I make the disclaimer constantly), but exact genetics of white patterns are not relevant to this guide, the patterns are what they are visually even if not understood genetically And of course tovero is a lump category, but if the word is used, I have to include it!"

Ilovemyphillip, I think I might do that too. :)

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