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post #1 of 22 Old 06-13-2013, 01:42 PM Thread Starter
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Flaxen Chestnut?

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I'm just wondering what you guys think. Whenever I think of chestnut with flaxen, I always think of a chestnut coloured horse with an extremely light blonde-like mane. The other day I was reading another thread on a mare that people thought was chestnut with flaxen that didn't have the super light mane and it got me to thinking. This is my mare "Sam" that I grew up with. She always did have a light-ish mane and tail in comparison to her body, but I never thought of her as flaxen. She died in 2004, so this is really just for fun. I know these pictures aren't the best, but unfortunately the best that I have. With her mane being on the right, most photos were taken of her and I with me standing, of course, on her left and these are all scans rather than digital.

Also, does anyone know anything about the genetics behind flaxen? Is it an extension to the red factor, or just a varying shade that's the same genetically like a liver chestnut? Thanks for your thoughts!

P.S. I will give you $1 000 000 internet dollars if you can guess who the foal is in some of the pictures.


She's about 7 months pregnant in this picture and not happy about it.


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post #2 of 22 Old 06-13-2013, 01:50 PM
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Flaxen is a seperate gene from red, it will just only show up on red horses (and its dilutions). Also, I believe the horse needs to have two copies present in order for it to show up. Your mare does look flaxen to me, which would mean that she has passed one copy on to her foal, although since he/she is bay it will of course not show up and it would also have had to get a copy from the sire. My mare is flaxen as well, but if you looked at her tail you could not tell, it's actually gotten redder since I got her while her mane, under the very top layer is almost white blonde.
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Kenda that's not 100% known for sure. It's thought to be recessive, but the flaxen gene has not been isolated so there is no for sure on that one.
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Hmm, ok, good to know. It's been awhile since I did any research on colour genes, this was just what I thought I remembered about it. Should've clarified that. Thanks for the info!
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She looks flaxen, but I don't know anything about genetics. :/

I have a question of my own about flaxen. My baby was born without a flaxen mane, but once we started trimming it and after she shed out, her mane "became" flaxen. Can flaxen show up later as well?

When she was 6 months, her mane was very red.




Now she is 13 months and her mane is very light!



Is this common?


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I don't think it's flaxen. When I think of flaxen, I think of a light light color. Our QH's top of his mane is a lighter "flaxen" like color, but I honestly believe it's from the sun. He is also a sorrel, and had a much darker mane when he was younger.
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I don't think it's flaxen. When I think of flaxen, I think of a light light color. Our QH's top of his mane is a lighter "flaxen" like color, but I honestly believe it's from the sun. He is also a sorrel, and had a much darker mane when he was younger.
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Yes, I think of flaxen as a much lighter colour than the body.
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Gorgeous Filly Oh Vair Oh. My guess is she is now getting her mature hair colour, although, like you, I don't know a ton about color genetics.

I pulled a quick pedigree from datasource on Sam and she's got quite a variety of colour in her background, although there is a lot of chestnut. There's a picture of her great grandsire, Abu-Alla, who most certainly displays flaxen, so I guess it's possible it was passed down. I don't know what her sire or dam looked like, other than one was chestnut and one was bay.

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Flaxen doesn't have to be bright white to be flaxen...
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I always thought of flaxen being more of a silver going through the mane... This is one of my FIL's horses.


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