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        06-29-2012, 08:30 PM
      #11
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    Originally Posted by WSArabians    
    I don't know. I bought a black filly that turned blue roan slowly over the years. I have a chestnut mare that turns a little more roan (rabicano actually, so she may not apply here) every year - her flanks are almost all white now.
    You're right in that rabicano does not relate to roan. Separate things going on.

    The black filly that turned blue roan - how old is she currently? I would love to see a picture of her - I bet that she is grey not roan...
         
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        06-29-2012, 08:32 PM
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    Weanling
    I'm curious about a picture as well. Were either parents of your appy roan?
         
        06-29-2012, 08:34 PM
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    And around these parts they call a reddish bay a blood bay??
         
        06-29-2012, 08:35 PM
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    Originally Posted by SpiritLifter    
    And around these parts they call a reddish bay a blood bay??
    Colour descriptions like that are very regional and have little to do with the genetics behind it. They are descriptive of the phenotype.
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        06-29-2012, 10:03 PM
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    Originally Posted by BlueSpark    
    Any one can feel free to explain rabaciano while your at it too
    Rabicano is a gene that causes white ticking (often mistaken for roan) that concentrates on the flank and barrel. It also causes a coontail. It's also mistaken for brindle because the ticking often forms into lines and appears stripey.

    This is a pretty loud rabicano:


    I'm also guessing that the OP's second horse is a varnish roan, which will change from year to year because appaloosa genes are crazy. There's one Appy at my barn that hasn't had any indication of varnish the last 2 years other than ticking that you would typically see on a chestnut horse anyway. This year, she could be easily be mistaken for a minimal roan.
         
        06-29-2012, 11:08 PM
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    Bridgertrot I'm curious about a picture as well. Were either parents of your appy roan?
    The mare gave every indication on being a plain bay, no white even. The stallion was a(I think) liver chestnut with 4 high whites, a blaze and a blanket. Appy genetics are.....a bit crazy. I know neither parent was grey or conventional roan, so I guessed varnish
         
        06-29-2012, 11:22 PM
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    Originally Posted by Chiilaa    
    You're right in that rabicano does not relate to roan. Separate things going on.

    The black filly that turned blue roan - how old is she currently? I would love to see a picture of her - I bet that she is grey not roan...
    I sold her as a two year old, I'll have to see if I can dig up pictures, but I'm not sure I can. She was sired by a blue roan stallion, out of a grey mare, but according to her new owners, she is still a roan.
         

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