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        02-11-2011, 09:36 AM
    In the spring when she first sheds her wihter coat, is she darker black/blue roan, and acquires a more rusty tone into spring and summer?

    I am going to be rebellious and say she is genetically black, but phenotypically a faded black.... with some form of sabino or DW which is causing the roaning.
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        02-11-2011, 11:39 AM
    In the first picture she looks grulla, but in order to be grulla she'd need a dun factor parent. In the second picture I really don't know, but it does appear that she has ticking form the sabino gene, her blaze and hind leg white indicate sabino as well
        02-11-2011, 11:50 AM
    Here are some photos of her during different stages of the year... I'm mostly interested in what everyone thinks her base color is - it would be nice to know for future breeding purposes... I think the general concensus is that she is some type of full body sabino... or something rather, lol!

    Typical Winter Coat:

    Typical Spring Coat:

    Typical Summer Coat:
        02-11-2011, 12:13 PM
    Green Broke
    I'll be interested to see what people's thoughts are. She appears to be the same base color as my two foals, just with some more demonstrated sabino. I have gone with the belief my two foals are dark liver chestnuts, though some people have insisted they are fading black/smokey black etc. In both my foals sire is a chestnut and dam is a black/white tobiano/sabino. Thanks for posting this thread!

    (just for reference - my Finn, first in early summer, then late summer last year, and a close up of his sabino tail)

        02-11-2011, 12:29 PM
    Hmm.. I agree with seeing the sabino part, but her base colour looks like a weird combination of liver chestnut and bay..
        02-11-2011, 02:04 PM
    Originally Posted by NdAppy    
    On whoever said roan isn't on the face or some such (sorry don't want to go back and quote ) it is rare, but it does happen that roan can and will roan the whole horse evenly. It is rare, but it does happen. (just pointing this out! Lol)
    Just curious, do you have any pictures of this? I've never seen or heard of a true roan having their head roan out when they weren't also carrying some other gene that causes "roaning".
        02-11-2011, 02:46 PM
    Oh, wow, she looks exactly like Judge. My money is still on liver chestnut.

    I wish that I had a better picture of him but this is all I've got. He's the head horse.
        02-11-2011, 02:58 PM
    Originally Posted by Quixotic    
    Just curious, do you have any pictures of this? I've never seen or heard of a true roan having their head roan out when they weren't also carrying some other gene that causes "roaning".
    I do somewhere. It's going to take me sometime to find where though.
        02-11-2011, 03:42 PM
    Now that I look again in the winter she looks very much like Paisano, a black sabino blanket Spanish Mustang pictured here (it's a link no permission to post):

    Flickr: SimratKhalsa's stuff tagged with paisano

    But in summer she almost looks bay...I'm think she could be brown or smoky black
        02-11-2011, 04:27 PM
    Green Broke
    She is stunning no matter what her color is. My cousin's Tennessee Walker is similar in color - with the big apron face blaze and roaning color on her body that changes with the season's like your horse. Can't remember what color she said Lady Dollar was! I will have to ask her!

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