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    11-05-2013, 07:19 PM
Future Color???

This is my friends filly. I can't quite grasp the color she will mature to be. She has been growing black spots on her body as shown. Her dad was jet black, mom is a black buckskin. Any thoughts?? Thanks
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    11-05-2013, 07:35 PM
I'm not quite sure what you mean by black buckskin? Do you mean she looks black but color tested buckskin or? I'm really curious, do you have any pictures showing the dam's coloring? Just based on the picture of the foal though I'd say she looks buckskin or smokey brown to me.

Edit to add I just realized maybe your friend meant black buckskin as in she's a black horse with cream, like a buckskin is bay with cream. If that is the case then the name for that is smokey black.
    11-05-2013, 07:48 PM
The foal looks brown-based buckskin to me. I'm also a little confused by the term black buckskin, though. If both parents are black (with or without a cream gene present) then there wouldn't have been an agouti gene to pass on to the foal.
    11-05-2013, 08:10 PM
Looks like a smokey black. The foal coat is the brownish fuzz, where the new coat is coming in it is black.

Horses can look really weird when they shed their foal coats. I saw a TB one time and he had black stripping down his legs- one side of the leg had shed, and the other side hadn't. He was a bay.
    11-05-2013, 08:41 PM
The owner refers to her as a black buckskin. I also don't get the term. Her legs are jet black but her body is kinda like a really dark grey, almost black with dapples. Anyone know what that color is? I don't have a picture of her with me.
    11-05-2013, 09:04 PM
Smokey brown. She's really cute!
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    11-05-2013, 09:14 PM
The problem with smoky brown is that if both parents are indeed black or smoky black, smoky brown is not possible.

OP, more pictures would be really helpful. Pictures of both the sire and dam would be best. And if possible, a picture of the foal in question fairly soon after birth, but dry, would be pretty handy too.
    11-05-2013, 09:59 PM
Sire must be super dark brown (like the stallion Gatsby for example), because the baby is definitely smokey brown IMO. Dam would then be smokey black, which is what they seem to be trying to describe with the term "black buckskin". Could be the other way around, too, of course. Pictures of sire and dam would help determine their colors, but regardless I'm quite confident that the foal is smokey brown.
    11-05-2013, 10:02 PM
I'm also leaning toward brownskin just based on his shade and what remains of his foal coat, but more pics of mom and dad would greatly help.

After all, some colors can be really sneaky and mimic other colors .
    11-05-2013, 10:02 PM
Smokey brown.

From the description i'd bet that's what the dam is as well.

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