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        11-08-2013, 01:30 AM
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    I was trying to answer the question of the difference between seal brown and brown (and couldn't remember). So you are saying there is no genetic difference?

    I see a difference, by my definition, but it's just the same "difference" as a red chestnut and a copper chestnut.

    Thank you for answering the question!
    Brown naw seal brown are just two ways of saying the se color. The agouti is (At) instead of just (A_). As for shade I have seen several homozygous browns (AtAt) be lighter in shade then the heterozygous browns.
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        11-08-2013, 01:49 AM
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    Originally Posted by Yogiwick    
    I was trying to answer the question of the difference between seal brown and brown (and couldn't remember). So you are saying there is no genetic difference?

    I see a difference, by my definition, but it's just the same "difference" as a red chestnut and a copper chestnut.

    Thank you for answering the question!
    Seal brown sounds better to people. That's about the only difference. Most folks don't like hearing their horse is "brown" because god forbid it be less than super special. But the same people are fine with saying "seal brown."
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        11-08-2013, 10:04 PM
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    I use the term Seal Bay for my mare because she BLACK in the summer with almost buckskin colored light spots in her flank and girth area, and she is coal black in the winter and has a brown muzzle. Calling her a bay confuses the heck out of people in my area -_-'. Her name is Negra meaning (feminine) black in Spanish so tells you how confused people can get about using proper color names lol.
         
        11-08-2013, 10:54 PM
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    Agree, I use the term for a "black" horse with very little brown, sometimes only visible seasonally. I use the term brown for any other brown horse. Just couldn't remember if it was technically a different color or just a different shade of brown.. I vaguely remember something along the lines of a hypothetical "other" brown gene, but who knows.
         
        11-08-2013, 11:07 PM
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    I use the term Seal Bay for my mare because she BLACK in the summer with almost buckskin colored light spots in her flank and girth area, and she is coal black in the winter and has a brown muzzle. Calling her a bay confuses the heck out of people in my area -_-'. Her name is Negra meaning (feminine) black in Spanish so tells you how confused people can get about using proper color names lol.
    That is the definition of brown.
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        11-09-2013, 01:25 AM
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    Green Broke
    Genetically seal brown = brown = seal bay. The researchers who identified the gene (At) called it seal brown, so that is probably most "correct." Brown is, I believe, a short hand for seal brown, which is confusing to people who aren't as up to date on genetics. I personally prefer the term seal bay, since it draws the connection between that color and "classic" bay (they are mutations of the same allele, after all) and the term has been around for a long time to describe dark bay horses, many of whom probably were genetically At.
         
        11-09-2013, 02:27 AM
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    Green Broke
    That must be what I am thinking of. Thank you for that info!
         

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