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        01-19-2013, 05:07 PM
      #21
    Green Broke
    Update.. the 'breeder' of this mare has contacted me. And wants the mare back. I have had her since 07 , found her reg papers, this mare was skin and bones when she came to me.
    I am have to shake my head, starve and give away a mare and foal, and then want them back.. why to breed and starve again? I did send back an email to her asking some questions, as there is a son of this mare Standing at stud. I have to aks about the CA test . Probably never done, it sure sounds like this mares problem. Her response to any discipline is to rear, and then she almost falls.
         
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        01-19-2013, 05:25 PM
      #22
    Trained
    Well, technically this mare is your so unless she wants to pay and you want to sell she has no grounds to demand her back.
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        01-19-2013, 07:52 PM
      #23
    Green Broke
    She offered to pay for the mare. She said she gave the mare and foal away as the property where she had the horses said she had to move them, and she thought she gave them to a good home. I have not heard of her ranch,or stallion, and she has not answered some of my questions. I am going to check her out, through some people I know , see if she is a legit and decent person, if she checks out, I may let her buy the mare back. I have already told the arab horse assoc that the mare was never to be bred and that I destroyed her papers. ( I still have the papers) because at one point I had someone that would take her, but the agreement was no breeding, and then I found that person was not being honest, so the mare never left here. No money ever exchanged hands, no paper work .
         
        01-19-2013, 08:24 PM
      #24
    Green Broke
    How interesting! It's a shame it's not as easy, cheap and routine to spay mares who shouldn't be bred as it is with studs; it would certainly make the decision easier to sell her back to the breeder who used to own her if you knew she couldn't be bred again. It might be enough that they can't register any of her foals, but who knows?
         
        01-20-2013, 01:52 AM
      #25
    Started
    There is no such thing as a "dumb" horse. Have her tested (CA), it is not the mare's fault. She's gorgeous and has absolutely wonderful bloodlines.

    Horses that rear or act out like that are reacting to either pain, or fear. Have the vet run tests on her.
         
        01-20-2013, 02:15 AM
      #26
    Green Broke
    Well, yes there are dumb horses.. this horse happens to be one. Just like some people are lots smarter than other people. Nope she will not be seeing a Vet.
    Vets have seen her. She probably does have back pain ,and she is an ugg on top of it. Lol.. and I don't know if she go will go back to the original breeder, or if she will just live out the rest of her life here.
         
        01-20-2013, 12:11 PM
      #27
    Trained
    I'm afraid im with Remali on that. Clumsiness, falling over her own feet and everything else you mentioned could be a neurological problem and certainly has nothing to do with being dumb.
    Same with the back, not necessarily bad breeding, it can be a problem with minerals lacking in the bone, she could have been bred too early and a whole slew of other things.
    I'd suggest check out her breeders and if they're seriously interested in giving her a retirement home, let her go.
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        01-20-2013, 01:11 PM
      #28
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by stevenson    
    she offered to pay for the mare. She said she gave the mare and foal away as the property where she had the horses said she had to move them, and she thought she gave them to a good home. I have not heard of her ranch,or stallion, and she has not answered some of my questions. I am going to check her out, through some people I know , see if she is a legit and decent person, if she checks out, I may let her buy the mare back. I have already told the arab horse assoc that the mare was never to be bred and that I destroyed her papers. ( I still have the papers) because at one point I had someone that would take her, but the agreement was no breeding, and then I found that person was not being honest, so the mare never left here. No money ever exchanged hands, no paper work .

    Well.... Unless your a registered rescue, you can't make any stipulations like that. Once she is sold and money changes hands, she isn't yours to call the shots on. Much like you can't sell a car and tell the driver that they can't speed.
    Just get vet, farrier, and a character reference and hope for the best. It's all we can do when we sell a horse.
    I know if I came across one of my old horses, I would want them back. Same if someone wanted one that I've been gifted - Letting go would be harder but..
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        01-20-2013, 04:11 PM
      #29
    Started
    Sorry if this comes across as harsh, but here goes... this poor mare is NOT dumb, her clumisness and falling is a result of either CA or some other health issue. There are not dumb horses, but there are dumb breeders/owners who refuse to test for such things as CA, etc.

    If this horse is in pain and falling over, someone needs to take care of her properly and she needs a vet.... why let a horse in pain go on suffering and falling? I am rather appalled. Maybe her original breeder would be a good home for her?
         
        01-20-2013, 06:02 PM
      #30
    Green Broke
    Okay, I say the horse is pain probably due ot her curved drop back, and her age. She is NOt ridden. THe horse has been seen by VETS. Leave her alone don't breed her.. well duh.. The horse is dumb. I have had horses for many years, many horses, some I trained, this horse is dumb. An example.. you clean the water trough, move it four inches.. she is afraid of it. Same water trough for the last 5 yrs, same general area she can see just fine. It is not her clumsiness that makes her dumb. I am talking she acts brain damage dumb. She will run through a fence. My horses are CARed for. I have a very smart quarab. IT is just this horse. Brain damaged. If the woman wants the horse back, and answers my questions, I will probably let her, as I have in the past had to get rid of horses and wanted one or two back but could never find them. BUt again, My horses see the VEt and I do what the VETs recommend. Also, it the woman ends up having a rep as breed em and dump em , she wont get the horse back.
         

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