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        05-21-2013, 11:54 AM
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    Yearling
    Greys

    Quick question.

    Is there any type of grey gene/color that will be born grey, STAY grey and not fade to white???? Just one of those questions floating around in my head.
         
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        05-21-2013, 11:56 AM
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    Green Broke
    Not that I know of ....
         
        05-21-2013, 11:57 AM
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    Yearling
    Ha I was afraid that would be the answer! :)
         
        05-21-2013, 12:07 PM
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    Green Broke
    Not all greys fade to white. I've heard that it depends on whether or not the horse is homozygous or heterozygous grey but I don't have scientific proof. It holds true for some bloodlines that I've looked up though and so far is true in my horse.

    I think they're always born their base color though then turn grey later on. A blue roan is sometimes confused for a grey though.
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        05-21-2013, 12:10 PM
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    Green Broke
    I believe all greys fade to white, it's just a matter of the horse living long enough to reach that point. Some horses grey faster than others, some horses very slowly grey out. A foal isn't born grey, but their coat can give you an indication if they will grey out or not. Usually, the foal coat is a more "mature" color(i.e. Darker), the legs are usually darker, and sometimes there are "goggles" around the foal's eyes.
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        05-21-2013, 02:21 PM
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    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by DancingArabian    
    Not all greys fade to white. I've heard that it depends on whether or not the horse is homozygous or heterozygous grey but I don't have scientific proof. It holds true for some bloodlines that I've looked up though and so far is true in my horse.

    I think they're always born their base color though then turn grey later on. A blue roan is sometimes confused for a grey though.
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    Which do you think is the one that won't fade? Homozygous or heterozygous.

    Also I see with Andalusian horses alot of them are white with "steel" grey manes/tails... Would those manes/tails fade eventually too?

    Is there any gene that would override grey?
         
        05-21-2013, 02:32 PM
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    Green Broke
    I've heard the heterozygous don't fade to white and end up flea bitten. Zero scientific proof though!

    I think with the Andalusians considering how prevalent grey is, they would probably fade to white.

    Grey is a dominant gene so a horse having just one copy is enough.
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        05-21-2013, 02:37 PM
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    Yearling
    I think I'd rather have white then flea bitten. So basically no matter what color of grey (whether rose grey etc.) they will All fade away into white/flea bitten white/grey
         
        05-21-2013, 06:50 PM
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    Green Broke
    The closest you will get to staying "grey" is a really dappled black silver:



    Anything that is truly grey will go white eventually, although time may beat some horses if they pass away before the process finishes. There is nothing that will stop horses from greying, but there are some lines that grey really slowly. Like this guy, who is pictured here in his teens:

         
        05-21-2013, 11:18 PM
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    Yearling
    Oh my! That Black silver is pretty! I have never seen a horse like that! The "dapples" look like snowflakes. Thanks for sharing. I think I now have grey down!
         

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