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Grulla, Dark Bay or Dark Buckskin?!

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    06-07-2013, 01:40 AM
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Foal
AnnaLover,that Grulla is gorgeous and looks a lot like him actually! I'm half way between grulla and dark bay. The weird difference is the no brown on his face. The only brown left on his face is the faded baby fuzz. I might just have him tested so I'll stop driving myself nuts hahaha
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    06-07-2013, 01:41 AM
  #12
Yearling
Ah, the other thing I was going to say is that his dam must have been dunskin (buckskin+dun) if my theory of his being a very dark grulla is correct. Even if she didn't appear obviously dunskin, it is still very possible that she could have been. It's quite often that dunskins don't have prominent dun factor.
Any pics of his dam or sire available? Any baby pictures?
You could always spend the $25 to get him tested for dun! If he's positive for it, then the only thing he could be based on his appearance is grulla.
http://www.vgl.ucdavis.edu/services/horse.php
http://www.vgl.ucdavis.edu/services/dunhorse.php
Better pictures of him would really help as well
     
    06-07-2013, 01:45 AM
  #13
Foal
Not yet :( I'm still in the process of the purchase and I'm hoping to get pictures of his parents soon. His granddames side has a lot of buckskin and his grandsires has a lot of bay's browns and buckskins. He has a very proud dorsel stripe and mom had a lighter one, haven't seen dad though.
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    06-07-2013, 01:48 AM
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Yearling
Hopefully you can get some pictures then!
See my edit to my last post in case you missed it- I think I edited it at the same time that you just posted
     
    06-07-2013, 02:29 AM
  #15
Foal
I think so! Lol I definitely am going to look into it now that I know it's not super expensive!! Thanks for the help!
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    06-07-2013, 03:02 AM
  #16
Yearling
Not a problem at all
Looking forward to more pictures of him and hopefully of his parents as well!
     
    06-07-2013, 03:34 AM
  #17
Banned
He looks black to me- a little sun faded.. test him?
     
    06-07-2013, 07:53 AM
  #18
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Originally Posted by AnnaLover    
At this point, without better photos, I'm pretty confident that he's a very dark grulla. They aren't particularly common but they do happen.
Jaz Poco Sterling - hammer horses
He's not quite as dark as your boy, but it gives you an idea of how dark they can be. Not all grullas look like the ones that PBR posted. In fact, those examples are especially light with very dark, prominent dun factor that isn't always present. Not all grullas have frosting in the mane like that and all most definitely don't have that awesome of dun factor on the ears!
I know I've seen other grullas as dark as the OP gelding. Unfortunately I don't have any saved, but I think I've found them on the online BLM adoption site. That seems to be the best place to find awesome expressions of dun
I have seen plenty of dark grullas and you can still tell they are grulla. He's sun faded black your making something simple special and complicated. If OP posts a pic of his dorsal perhaps it will be more obvious to you. I posted a light grulla to show dun factor. Even on dark grullas you can still see dun factor. He's sun faded black that's all there is to it. Also neither parent is dun and that is a MUST because dun is a simple dominant.
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    06-07-2013, 07:56 AM
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OP before you test get us some new close up and full body pics and the "dorsal" in question.
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    06-07-2013, 01:44 PM
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I have seen plenty of dark grullas and you can still tell they are grulla. He's sun faded black your making something simple special and complicated. If OP posts a pic of his dorsal perhaps it will be more obvious to you. I posted a light grulla to show dun factor. Even on dark grullas you can still see dun factor. He's sun faded black that's all there is to it. Also neither parent is dun and that is a MUST because dun is a simple dominant.
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I definitely agree on better pictures to be sure. I, however, can see plenty of dun factor in the last picture to warrant grulla.
I am also very aware that in order to have a dun, one parent must be as well
That is why I said " his dam must have been dunskin (buckskin+dun) if my theory of his being a very dark grulla is correct. Even if she didn't appear obviously dunskin, it is still very possible that she could have been. It's quite often that dunskins don't have prominent dun factor."
I have my opinion and you have yours. I can totally see where you're coming from, but I have my reasons for believing that he is a dark grulla rather than a smokey black/ sunfaded black.
I am not 100% sure with my theory, but better pictures will hopefully enable us all to decide for sure
     

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