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post #11 of 25 Old 03-03-2011, 08:36 AM
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Perhaps she is thinking this....REALLY dark brown.




However, I think the OP's horse is black. I see no browm in the mane or even hints of it.

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post #12 of 25 Old 03-03-2011, 09:00 AM
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You don't have to have brown in the mane or tail to have a brown horse. Nor do you have to have brown in the mane or tail to have a bay horse. Brown is another form of agouti, which is the same gene as bay. They restrict black to the points.
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He really looks black to me. But maybe we will be able to tell better when he doesn't have a nice and fuzzy winter coat.

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Could be Gizmo. Lol or it could be my computer screen though too. I know that sometimes that can skew a color a person is seeing.
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Yeah that is true. It is also hard to see an actually true black horse. A lot of times they are really dark brown.

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You don't have to have brown in the mane or tail to have a brown horse. Nor do you have to have brown in the mane or tail to have a bay horse. Brown is another form of agouti, which is the same gene as bay. They restrict black to the points.
I am not a color guru, nor am I a genetic one. However, I would not expect brown in the mane and/ot tail of a bay, no less have to have it to be bay. Only reason I said anything about the mane is that from my own experience, that sunbleaches and tends to stay visible, since it is allowed to grow longer. Regular coat sheds out, as we know.

I think that after the OP's horse has shed out, and perhaps gets some sun.....then if there is ANY brown you will see it. Mine (pics above) actually gets relatively light brown with dapples where his saddle sits in the summer if he is out 24/7. I still think the OP's horse is black.

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lol Callie, my APHA mare, is a true black tobiano.
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I am not a color guru, nor am I a genetic one. However, I would not expect brown in the mane and/ot tail of a bay, no less have to have it to be bay.

I think that after the OP's horse has shed out, and perhaps gets some sun.....then if there is ANY brown you will see it. Mine (pics above) actually gets relatively light brown with dapples where his saddle sits in the summer if he is out 24/7.
A black horse can and does get "brown" from sun fading as well. I, personally, do not see you horse as brown, but as a black that apparently fades in the sun.

A brown horse, once again, does not have to have any brown in the mane and/or tail.
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Hi guys, I am out of town right now, but ill get more pics this weekend. NDAppy..there is another thread started by me with almost full body shots od him also in direct sunlight. In those, he looks brown kinda. Also, his butt is a brownish as it slopes to the stifle, then his leg turns JET black...following a bay pattern. It isn't noticeable, but if you look you can see the difference.
Also, as far as his mane goes, it has reddish streaks in it. Don't know if its sun bleached, or not.
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I'll take a look at your other thread Starlite. No hurry on the pics.
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