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Is he dark bay, seal brown, or blood bay?

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    05-10-2011, 10:36 AM
Haha, I forgot I had that in there!
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    05-10-2011, 11:15 AM
I've been told that is a seal brown. Black with brown points around the nose and flank are seal brown. This is my friends Seal Brown mare.

I don't think I have ever seen a true 'Dark Bay' I think its just another term for the seal brown. But for Blood Bay, now that is your picture perfect bay. Brown/red coat with black mane/tail/legs/nose.

    05-10-2011, 12:43 PM
I would have thought Seal brown, as well. I also thought there was no plum "brown" in horses, outside of misconceptions? (I mean I've heard people call chestnuts 'brown.')

We do have one Dark Bay, Darla, who is registered... Jack looks nothing like her, aside from the muzzle. (A picture of her is below, in her summer coat.) Jack isn't registered and is the run-of-the mill "mutt" (as far as we know), so it's hard telling and all a matter of judgement.

I told the girl who said he was a blood bay that it didn't sound right to me. I thought "blood" bay was more... bloodish-colored. Lol! I'd also seen pictures of Seal brown horses and figured, "Hey, that is so Jack."

But, in the same respects, I'm still very new to the equestrian world, leaving plenty of room for being wrong about things. (Shrug)

Thank you guys for your input!

    05-10-2011, 12:49 PM
Brown is color now. They have found the gene for it. As it happens it is form of agouti along with bay and wild bay. Brown is At, Bay is A, and Wild Bay is A+.
    05-10-2011, 01:11 PM
Originally Posted by NdAppy    
Brown is color now. They have found the gene for it. As it happens it is form of agouti along with bay and wild bay. Brown is At, Bay is A, and Wild Bay is A+.
Really? Wow! When I was first learning the colors I was told not to call a horse "brown" because it would "make me sound like a fool -- 'brown' is not a true color in horses blahblah."

I guess that shows them!
    05-10-2011, 01:12 PM
Lol it just goes to show how often the colors "change" with the new things people learn about them.
    05-10-2011, 01:31 PM
Weanling . -----seal brown . -----dark bay -----sooty bay (w/ dapples)
http://www.patmitchellperformancehor..._high_oaks.jpg. -----brown

These pictures are not mine, borrowed for temporary educational purposes. No claim to prints or any rights of ownership.
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    05-10-2011, 01:42 PM
Sorry for double post, wanted to add, Darla looks like a sooty bay to me.

Keep in mind, the only way to know for sure is to take what you see and the results from color testing and compare... as we all know, perlino will genetically test black...
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    05-10-2011, 02:08 PM
Westonsma second one you posted is also brown. Last one is to hard to tell if it is sunbleached black or a brown. So I am going to be disagreeing with you quite heartily. The horse in the OP is Brown.
    05-10-2011, 03:01 PM
Black does not sun bleach.

The second photo is of a tb, and actually, according to that horse's registry, brown/dark bay are the same.
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