he IS liver chestnut!!
 
 

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he IS liver chestnut!!

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  • Liver chestnut or bay
  • Can liver chestnuts get darkercwith age?

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    07-08-2011, 05:40 AM
  #1
Foal
he IS liver chestnut!!

So I got romeo's vaccinations and the Vet had to sign off his passport... and couldnt decide whether he was BAY or BROWN???? Im not an expert but im convinced he is liver chestnut.... can see why he may say brown but Bay?? Seriously? What do you all think? Xx
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    07-08-2011, 05:41 AM
  #2
Foal
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    07-08-2011, 06:32 AM
  #3
Trained
What colour are his parents?
     
    07-08-2011, 07:42 AM
  #4
Foal
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Originally Posted by Chiilaa    
What colour are his parents?
both black :)
     
    07-09-2011, 09:37 AM
  #5
Foal
He looks dark bay to me...

Here is a pic of my liver chestnut mare - note there is no black on her legs, or in her mane/tail (tail looks verrry dark, but when you see it up close, you can see that it is just dark chestnut)...

Either way your horse is beautiful!
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    07-09-2011, 03:26 PM
  #6
Foal
Aww thank you I think he is too.... oh really you would say bay?? It was the dark points that made the vet think bay but they arent actually black they just darker brown.... to me tho his coat looks exactly the same colour as you gorgeous mare does in you profile picture..... what defines a liver chestnut then?? Can they have 'darker' points? Xx
     
    07-09-2011, 03:39 PM
  #7
Showing
I would say that he is a fading black. Normally on liver chestnuts, their legs get lighter as you go down toward their hooves as you can see on OTTB's horse. A liver chestnut is just that, a chestnut that happens to be darker than others. I am unsure whether it is a sooty modifier that causes it or if it just happens. With both the sire and dam being black, there was only a 1 in 4 chance of a chestnut horse (if both parents are heterozygous for black). If one parent was homozygous black, then there is zero chance for a chestnut horse.
     
    07-09-2011, 04:43 PM
  #8
Trained
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Originally Posted by smrobs    
I would say that he is a fading black. Normally on liver chestnuts, their legs get lighter as you go down toward their hooves as you can see on OTTB's horse. A liver chestnut is just that, a chestnut that happens to be darker than others. I am unsure whether it is a sooty modifier that causes it or if it just happens. With both the sire and dam being black, there was only a 1 in 4 chance of a chestnut horse (if both parents are heterozygous for black). If one parent was homozygous black, then there is zero chance for a chestnut horse.
As well as this, if both parents are black, they cannot produce a bay or brown foal
     
    07-09-2011, 10:17 PM
  #9
Foal
Go to Color Calculator

This is the result I got! Unless one of his parents weren't true black....

93.75% - Black
6.25% - Chestnut
     
    07-09-2011, 10:32 PM
  #10
Showing
The horse in the photo looks dark bay or brown to me... Definitely not liver chestnut.
     

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