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post #21 of 33 Old 02-25-2011, 03:10 PM
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crimson - I can't see the first two pictures real well on my phone. I will have to look when I get home. The appy, I would call him a brown with a blanket with spots, and a star.
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post #22 of 33 Old 02-25-2011, 03:14 PM
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crimson - I can't see the first two pictures real well on my phone. I will have to look when I get home. The appy, I would call him a brown with a blanket with spots, and a star.
and therein lies my confusion - as he is really greying/roaning out under that winter coat. the picture of his face kind of shows it but he's at least half silver/grey along with the brown on his face/neck/body (not his legs though). oye... i love appys but the color combinations can make one loopy.
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Crimson-- The first horse is black. It looks like he might fade a bit in the sun, but not much.
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and therein lies my confusion - as he is really greying/roaning out under that winter coat. the picture of his face kind of shows it but he's at least half silver/grey along with the brown on his face/neck/body (not his legs though). oye... i love appys but the color combinations can make one loopy.
What colors were his sire/dam?

He could very well have LP roan as well. Hard to tell with the winter coat though.
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"I would never recommend test breedings"

Well no. Especially for geldings, LOL.

You know, it's possible that the 'fading black' thing is defined a little different by the researchers than by normal people. That might account for why it doesn't seem rare to us yet researchers say it is.

But I've never found anything that specifically indicates how they test for fading or non fading.
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What colors were his sire/dam?

He could very well have LP roan as well. Hard to tell with the winter coat though.
mom (from a few years ago i believe):


dad (also at least a year or so old):


and the colt when he was born:


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I lovvvvvve his spotty butt! love love!

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"I would never recommend test breedings"

Well no. Especially for geldings, LOL.

You know, it's possible that the 'fading black' thing is defined a little different by the researchers than by normal people. That might account for why it doesn't seem rare to us yet researchers say it is.

But I've never found anything that specifically indicates how they test for fading or non fading.
Well, you could just stick them out in the sun to figure out if they fade or not..

But I personally don't think it'd really be a "fading gene". Some people have their own hair fade in the sun. Some don't. Some summers my hair goes really blonde, some summers it stays dark blonde.
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Callie is outside 24/7/365. Maybe blanketed for a few days in the winter, but otherwise she is outside. She is a nonfading black.

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It was always my understanding that a true brown horse would have dark brown hairs around the muzzle and in the flank area. If you look at all the pictures, Tamara's horse doesn't have brown hairs around the muzzle. He just looks sunfaded to me.
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