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Help me out - She's brown, not bay, right?

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        03-17-2013, 03:17 AM
      #21
    Foal
    :S I have seen the DNA clarification for a horse that is the exact colouring of this horse and it is a bay. I don't remember whether it is wild bay or standard.
    The light muzzle can be caused by the wild bay gene. I've never heard of a horse with a red body be called brown. :/
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        03-17-2013, 03:18 AM
      #22
    Showing
    SorrelHorse, does her color vary season to season? As in, she's one shade of red in the summer and a different shade in the winter? That's another hallmark of brown. The gelding that I posted the picture of (who is a true bay) was the same color always, regardless of season.
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        03-17-2013, 03:19 AM
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    Foal
    My suggestion to the OP is that if you want a clear answer, get testing done :p because its clear we can sit here and argue every point forever and ever! Lol or just decide based on information on websites etc and figure out what she is in your opinion!
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        03-17-2013, 03:20 AM
      #24
    Showing
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Wildcard    
    :S I have seen the DNA clarification for a horse that is the exact colouring of this horse and it is a bay. I don't remember whether it is wild bay or standard.
    The light muzzle can be caused by the wild bay gene. I've never heard of a horse with a red body be called brown. :/
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    Like I said, wild bay would affect the legs and mane, turning them lighter like the soft points. The OP's horse is not wild bay and unless she has pangere (which I highly doubt), given the mealiness of her soft points, the only other option is brown.

    Wildcard, check out the thread on here called The Bad-Ass Brown (or something like that). There's a lot of browns on there that are lighter.
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        03-17-2013, 03:22 AM
      #25
    Foal
    Wild bay can manifest in more than one way and not always affect the mane.
    Again, my friends horse looks like this one and is NOT a brown. Does NOT have the gene for a brown horse and he has the light nose and eyes too.
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        03-17-2013, 03:23 AM
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    Foal
    Ill check that out! I'm just very confused as it goes against the actual tests we have from the uni for my friends horse!
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        03-17-2013, 03:23 AM
      #27
    Showing
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    Originally Posted by Wildcard    
    Wild bay can manifest in more than one way and not always affect the mane.
    Again, my friends horse looks like this one and is NOT a brown. Does NOT have the gene for a brown horse and he has the light nose and eyes too.
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    But does he have the lighter soft points (inside of elbow, under flank, etc) that the OP's horse has?
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        03-17-2013, 03:24 AM
      #28
    Foal
    Yes he does. He could be here twin other than he has only a snip no star!
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        03-17-2013, 03:25 AM
      #29
    Trained
    Wildcard, I'm sorry for sounding rude, but I really don't take any credibility from "my friend's horse looked like this"....

    I'm not completely ignorant, I know my mare is definitely not a wild bay.

    Yes, Aires, in the summer she is a bright copper/red color.
         
        03-17-2013, 03:27 AM
      #30
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Wildcard    
    The light muzzle can be caused by the wild bay gene.
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    Except if it was wild bay, then her horse would not have black legs or black mane and tail. Which leaves: Brown.

    What a horse expresses as their phenotype, is not always congruent to their genotype.

    Case and point, guess what color this horse is genetically-

         

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