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    10-03-2012, 04:06 AM
hmmmm.... bay? or chestnut

This is a horse my friend owns.... she was thinking he's wild bay, but he doesn't look it to me. I'm usually pretty good with colors, but can't put a finger on this one. What do ya'll think?

May not be the best pictures, but this is all she sent me.
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    10-03-2012, 05:20 AM
Given that there is no black on the legs at all, I doubt he's a wild bay. It's a beautiful colour though, whatever it is.
    10-03-2012, 06:48 AM
My chestnut mare's tail goes from a nice red to an almost black, so I'd say it's completely possible that he could be a chestnut.. but I'm thinking he's something else. We'll have to see what the colour experts say!
    10-03-2012, 08:21 AM
Hmm it's really hard to tell from these photos unfortunately. He could be a chestnut with sooty in the mane and tail, or he could be a wild bay with pangare hiding his black points on the legs. However, I can't say either one with certainty from these pics
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    10-03-2012, 12:00 PM
If the mane and tail are black then the horse is bay........and the actual bay color would be called a bright bay. But I see she has no black on her legs so guessing that mane is just a dark brown?

This is a picture of my bright bay

    10-03-2012, 12:09 PM
Green Broke
I was also thinking of possible pangare. Very cute horse :)
    10-03-2012, 12:20 PM
I say sooty sorrel like my friend horse Comanche. Notice how he gets lighter at the points (sorrel trait) bays have black points that horse has none.

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    10-03-2012, 12:57 PM
Originally Posted by Super Nova    
If the mane and tail are black then the horse is bay........and the actual bay color would be called a bright bay.
Unfortunately, it's not as simple as that. I'm leaning towards chestnut with sooty concentrated in the mane & tail.

Much like this palomino where it is concentrated in just the mane:
    10-03-2012, 04:41 PM
Okay, so on the topic of sooty.. as I really have close to zero knowledge on the subject, would my mare have sooty concentrated on the tail?

It starts out red and goes to an almost black.

IMAG0309 by Right Cute Cali, on Flickr

It looks a bit lighter in the picture than it actually is, but it's considerably darker than the top of her tail. Her mane is just the red with numerous black strands.
    10-04-2012, 10:48 AM
I can't tell much about the tail from that picture. Do you have one from the back?

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