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How to get a Buckskin out of a Red Dun?

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    02-27-2011, 01:28 PM
Green Broke
To me, because I can't see any dun characteristics (shoulder stripes, leg barring, etc) she looks like a chestnut with countershading, which would produce a dorsal stripe.
I'd go with the above advice, in this case.
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    02-28-2011, 12:05 AM
The only way to guarantee what color foal you get is to go out and buy one that's already on the ground. Looking at genetics can give you an idea of what to expect but it is still just a crap shoot when you breed.
    02-28-2011, 07:04 PM
Yeah I'm pretty sure she just has counter shadowing now, but she wouldn't stand still for any pics yesterday. Anyway yeah I know there's no guarentee when breeding. I'd just love to enjoy the experience of having and raising a foal with the bonus of it hopefully being a color I particularly love. And yeah Perlino is what I was thinking, to bad there doesn't seem to be a lot of them.
    02-28-2011, 09:07 PM
Quality perlino stallions are rather uncommon. Many people keep them studs just for their colour. Finding one that compliments your mare AND is homozygous for agouti and black is going to be very difficult.

If you're up for the challenge, I say go for it.
    03-01-2011, 12:54 AM
Originally Posted by Poseidon    
Quality perlino stallions are rather uncommon. Many people keep them studs just for their colour. Finding one that compliments your mare AND is homozygous for agouti and black is going to be very difficult.

If you're up for the challenge, I say go for it.
Sad, but true. A lot of people see a "rare" color and they go "ooooh! Color!! Must breed it!" and all common sense (i.e. Looking at conformation, soundness, mind... etc etc etc) go out the window.
To the OP, if you want to have the experience, why not buy a newborn or young foal? You can bring it home as soon as it's weaned, and have that bonding time, without the worry, extra cost (LOTS of extra cost) and potential disasters that can come with breeding your own mare? There are some really nice, well bred foals out there in a rainbow of colors just waiting for the right person to take them home. Foaling season is starting, too, don't forget, a whole crop of 2011 foals are on their way.
    03-01-2011, 05:54 PM
Hmm I'll keep my eye out for foals but If I do breed her I'm thinking about this stud. From what their website says he is good but what do you guys think?
    03-01-2011, 06:03 PM
Gut feeling... Don't like him. But that is my gut feeling.

I am turned off by the fact there is not true conformation pictures. I am also turned off by the fact all of the pictures (besides the head shot) are obviously edited and not in a good way imo.

Personally, I don't think he is breeding material imo and the stallion's owner isnt asking for a critique so I will stop there.

Torchwood - If you post some pictures of you mare, her pedigree, and what you are wanting to do with this foal, we might be able to help find a stallion that would complement her or find you a foal already on or soon to be on the ground.
    03-01-2011, 06:35 PM
Okay thanks here are some pics of her. I don't know her pedigree because I got her from my cousins who recued her. I only plan on doing pleasure and trail riding. I don't really have very many side shots of her so hopefully these are okay.

    03-01-2011, 07:56 PM
Tell me you are not really thinking of breeding a rescued mare .... please just go buy what you want I see nothing about this mare that screams BREED ME

Babies are cheap right now and you can buy anything you want without risking your mare

To breed and do it right cost alot of money much more then you will spend buying a NICE baby
    03-01-2011, 08:28 PM
I don't mean any offense to your mare because she is a cute horse and appears to be a sweetheart, but she really isn't something that I would want to breed. She's too upright in her front end and her head and neck are pretty coarse.

Even if you decided to breed her, there are 2 tests that you would have to have done before you went one step further. Since her lineage is completely unknown, you would need to have her tested for HYPP and HERDA. Those are genetic diseases that can effect stock horse breeds with Impressive (HYPP) or Poco Bueno (HERDA) in their bloodlines.

I have to agree with Appy on the stud. It always sends up red flags to me when a stud owner doesn't have good conformation shots of their stud in their advertisement. Just judging from what I can see, his shoulder is as upright as a wall so breeding him to your mare would be a bad idea anyway. She would certainly need a stud that had a nicely sloped shoulder to (hopefully) prevent the foal from riding like a jackhammer in an earthquake, not to mention the possible soundness issues from a horse with a too-straight shoulder.

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