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How to get a Buckskin out of a Red Dun?

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  • Can a red dun have a buckskin
  • Horse color genetics what do you get crossing cremello to red dun

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    03-01-2011, 09:58 PM
Alright... But what do you mean by her head and neck are coarse?
And then does anyone know where I can find listings of foals for sale?
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    03-02-2011, 09:45 PM
By coarse, I mean that they are a bit big, thick, and clunky. In a good stock horse, the body should be thick and the head and neck should be more refined.

You can find foal listings on almost any horse for sale website; craigslist, equinenow, equinehits, etc. You can even find really well bred, registered foals at any auction for a pittance these days.
    03-03-2011, 07:54 AM
Ah alright, personlly I like her big head and neck I hate the look of those small arabian like faces lol I'll keep my out for something then thanks.
    03-03-2011, 08:17 AM
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    03-04-2011, 09:05 AM
If you are looking for a quality perlino stud to get a buckckin colt there are 2 that I personally like. Dun Faded My Genes and Icemans Dun It. I know the Dun Faded horse is homozygous black but not certain on the Iceman horse.

I also agree with the posts that state you could buy a colt and get what you are looking for at probably the same price, with all costs accounted for, as breeding the mare. And you are not breeding a "rescue" horse. Unless you can guarantee you will keep the foal forever, then, in my opinion, buy a registered foal that in the future will be more marketable.
    03-10-2011, 11:50 AM
buckskin from a red dun

A red dun carries one dun gene (or maybe 2 which only testing can tell) and 2 red genes without testing we can see that by seeing her color. She can only throw a red gene and maybe a dun gene and possibly a hidden Agouti gene if she has one...breed her to a buckskin and you know he will have Agouti and cream which is what you need for a buckskin and you know he will have the black gene which you also need...if she throws her red it won't matter and if she throws her dun it will be a buckskin/dun (dunskin), if she has agouti it just gives you double the chance of getting your buckskin. See for a color calculator and studs to choose from.
    03-10-2011, 06:18 PM
Lewis Ranch, to be 100% on getting a buckskin or dunskin from a red dun, she would have to breed her mare to a perlino that is homozygous for black and agouti. Since a perlino is a double cream dilute, it will pass on 1 cream gene 100% of the time.

If she were to breed to a buckskin, there would only be a 50% chance of the foal receiving the cream gene, which would give the results of bay and dun.
    03-11-2011, 09:10 AM
Getting a buckskin/dunskin

They are correct. There is a test for dun, and for Agouti which your mare may also carry and not express (due to lack of a black gene to throw to points). I looked at your pics and she looks chestnut/sorrel to me. Either way, she has 2 red genes and if you want a buckskin, the dun part is irrelevant.

If you want a GUARANTEE of buckskin, a perlino (not a cremello, who carries no black gene) will give you a guarantee of cream and if your mare carries agouti (only $25 to test for it with mane hairs with you have a great chance at a buckskin without having to have the perlino homozygous for Agouti or black but if you want a guaranteed buckskin foal, yes, a perlino that is homozygous black and agouti is the only way to get a guaranteed buckskin (unless your mare is homozygous for Agouti). Takes one black and one agouti and one cream gene to make a buckskin. Your mare might be homozygous for Agouti...I have a palomino mare that is. All I have to do is breed her to my homozygous black stud and I will get a buckskin every time, guaranteed. She is for sale BTW or buy a foal in utero from her. I have a buckskin/white paint yearling colt for sale too.
    03-11-2011, 09:48 AM
Lewis Ranch - Breeding your homozygous agouti palomino mare to a homozygous black stallion gives you 50% chance of a bay and 50% chance of a buckskin. You are not guaranteed a buckskin out of that breeding.

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